Film-Tech Cinema Systems
Film-Tech Forum


Post New Topic  Post A Reply
my profile | my password | register | search | faq & rules | forum home
  next oldest topic   next newest topic
» Film-Tech Forum   » Operations   » Film Handlers' Forum   » mut staying on full speed

   
Author Topic: mut staying on full speed
Mark L Morgan
Film Handler

Posts: 11
From: tell city, IN
Registered: Jul 2004


 - posted 08-15-2004 04:01 AM      Profile for Mark L Morgan   Author's Homepage   Email Mark L Morgan   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
anyone know how to adjust speed on one of these things? when i go to rewind it's on full speed wont adjust. feeds out perfect.

 |  IP: Logged

Ethan Harper
E-dawggg!!!

Posts: 325
From: Plano, TX, USA
Registered: May 2000


 - posted 08-15-2004 04:44 AM      Profile for Ethan Harper   Email Ethan Harper   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
What is the Brand?

 |  IP: Logged

Ken Layton
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1452
From: Olympia, Wash. USA
Registered: Sep 1999


 - posted 08-15-2004 11:26 AM      Profile for Ken Layton   Email Ken Layton   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Yeh, there are plenty of different makes and models of makeup tables out there. We need to know which one yours is in order to help.

 |  IP: Logged

Darryl Spicer
Film God

Posts: 3250
From: Lexington, KY, USA
Registered: Dec 2000


 - posted 08-15-2004 11:31 AM      Profile for Darryl Spicer     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
and it would probably be a good idea to include the brand name in the topic header.

 |  IP: Logged

Mark L Morgan
Film Handler

Posts: 11
From: tell city, IN
Registered: Jul 2004


 - posted 08-16-2004 11:50 AM      Profile for Mark L Morgan   Author's Homepage   Email Mark L Morgan   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
eprad

 |  IP: Logged

Gordon McLeod
Film God

Posts: 9431
From: Toronto Ontario Canada
Registered: Jun 99


 - posted 08-16-2004 12:52 PM      Profile for Gordon McLeod   Email Gordon McLeod   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Most likely it is the variac that has gone bad and it may be as simple as the connection to the common (soldered to the centre of the variac winding) is open also maybe the microswitch on the cam for rotation is not set correctly

 |  IP: Logged

Mike Blakesley
Film God

Posts: 12275
From: Forsyth, Montana
Registered: Jun 99


 - posted 08-16-2004 06:08 PM      Profile for Mike Blakesley   Author's Homepage   Email Mike Blakesley   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Mark, better read the FAQ and fix your thread title before one of the Moderators takes a huge [bs] on you.

 |  IP: Logged

Richard Greco
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1180
From: Plant City, FL
Registered: Nov 2003


 - posted 08-16-2004 09:13 PM      Profile for Richard Greco   Email Richard Greco   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Just a FYI, when posting, make sure you give a little description in the topic title. For example: "What is the speed of a (insert brand) mut?"

Just to let you know...

Now before I get yelled at for being a wanna-be mod, I'm gonna go bye-bye.

 |  IP: Logged

Brad Miller
Administrator

Posts: 17638
From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99


 - posted 08-16-2004 10:47 PM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
Guys, there is a simpler way to explain the rule...

Read rule #7 and make appropriate corrections before you get booted from the forums.

 |  IP: Logged

Bill Langfield
Master Film Handler

Posts: 280
From: Prospect, NSW, Australia
Registered: Apr 2001


 - posted 08-17-2004 11:59 AM      Profile for Bill Langfield   Author's Homepage   Email Bill Langfield   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Eprad like below? If so LIKE Gordon said.
I know you can't SEE the mut, but it doesnt take a genius to work out what is hiding behind those reels.

 -

Plus check that the variac is centred before lifting the arm.
Don't rely on the arrow on the control, twist it left and right until you feel it centred.
BTW: Im the good looking one in the blue shirt.

EDIT/ADDITION:

Here's a pile of junk I was going to post the other night after I saw Mark's 'mutt' post, but then the FORMULA 1 Race started. I really should edit it, but Im too lazy. Hope some of it makes sense.

Oh good, I’m glad Mark brought up the subject of Mut’s, I’ve a few questions too.
Though it is a real shame his subject and content explains EXACTLY nothing.
Oh well it’s only his second post. He’ll learn I guess.

One of the Cinemeccanica muts the type that have the slider not the rotary speed controller ‘blew’ up.
(Not sure of the model number, all I can suggest is the newer ones that come with the CNR-35’N’)

The main blame went to it being operated at full speed. I find that hard believes as are the speed control
Electronics not under any load

Before Mark gets busted for a lame Topic subject and bad content, I have a question too.

Oh first, Mark, with nothing to go on, I'd say the gizmo that controls slow to fast is burnt out and arc'd into fast mode! [Smile]
Nomally stuff like that shits itself and burns out into 'STOP what stinks mode'.

Anyway:
One of the Cinemeccanica muts the type that have the slider not the rotary speed controller ‘blew’ up.
(Not sure of the model number, all I can suggest is the newer ones that come with the CNR-35’N’)

The main blame went to it being operated at full speed. I find that hard believe as the speed control
Electronics not under any load when to full, surely?
Second blame went to that it was being broken down by the classic method of 'pulling' it onto 6000's.
Third, the idiler roller was not dis-engaged.
Forth, all or a combo of the above.

I dont really care what blew it up or what blew on it, it was before my time and most of the people that were there at the time are gone, that mut just sits in the corner now, there are others. I might open it up one day and see whats broken in there.

The end result, is that is now recommended to breakdown via the payout brain to either 2000' flats or to a 6000' spool.

Bizzare, Ive never heard of breaking down via the payout. Is it common?
Iv'e not tried it but I can only imagine it make for a loose wind to a flat, how ever there would zero load on the mut.

GOOTA go the F1 is....!!

 |  IP: Logged

Mark L Morgan
Film Handler

Posts: 11
From: tell city, IN
Registered: Jul 2004


 - posted 08-19-2004 12:59 AM      Profile for Mark L Morgan   Author's Homepage   Email Mark L Morgan   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
thanks guys for your help... sorry for not being on the rule thing but i will next time.... mark

 |  IP: Logged

Brad Miller
Administrator

Posts: 17638
From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99


 - posted 08-19-2004 05:14 AM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
Sounds like Mark has never read the FAQ and rules pages or he would have already corrected the problem.

It is YOUR responsibility to fix Mark. Please do this before you post further.

 |  IP: Logged

Mitchell Dvoskin
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1813
From: West Milford, NJ, USA
Registered: Jan 2001


 - posted 08-19-2004 08:04 AM      Profile for Mitchell Dvoskin   Email Mitchell Dvoskin   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
And here I thought this was a thread about those cartoon characters Mutt & Jeff, not some boring film winding gizmo.

 |  IP: Logged

Mark L Morgan
Film Handler

Posts: 11
From: tell city, IN
Registered: Jul 2004


 - posted 08-19-2004 03:23 PM      Profile for Mark L Morgan   Author's Homepage   Email Mark L Morgan   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
i am getting better...........

 |  IP: Logged



All times are Central (GMT -6:00)  
Post New Topic  Post A Reply Close Topic    Move Topic    Delete Topic    next oldest topic   next newest topic
 - Printer-friendly view of this topic
Hop To:



Powered by Infopop Corporation
UBB.classicTM 6.3.1.2

The Film-Tech Forums are designed for various members related to the cinema industry to express their opinions, viewpoints and testimonials on various products, services and events based upon speculation, personal knowledge and factual information through use, therefore all views represented here allow no liability upon the publishers of this web site and the owners of said views assume no liability for any ill will resulting from these postings. The posts made here are for educational as well as entertainment purposes and as such anyone viewing this portion of the website must accept these views as statements of the author of that opinion and agrees to release the authors from any and all liability.

© 1999-2018 Film-Tech Cinema Systems, LLC. All rights reserved.