Film-Tech Cinema Systems
Film-Tech Forum ARCHIVE


  
my profile | my password | search | faq & rules | forum home
  next oldest topic   next newest topic
» Film-Tech Forum ARCHIVE   » Operations   » Film Handlers' Forum   » Rebuilding Strong Alpha Platter Motor (Page 1)

 
This topic comprises 2 pages: 1  2 
 
Author Topic: Rebuilding Strong Alpha Platter Motor
Christopher Wehrman
Film Handler

Posts: 15
From: St. Louis, Missouri
Registered: Apr 2001


 - posted 07-16-2004 11:13 AM      Profile for Christopher Wehrman   Author's Homepage   Email Christopher Wehrman   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hello, I need to start rebuilding our pile of dead motors. I've replaced the burshes in some of them, but most motors i'm finding have bad contacts or shorted windings.

I saw in one of the threads here that you can use a grainger motor (Pt.# 2M262). However, i have never done this before. Is there someone who has indtructions on how to do this? Please let me know. You guys are awesome!! [thumbsup]

Thanks

 |  IP: Logged

Mark Gulbrandsen
Resident Trollmaster

Posts: 16657
From: Music City
Registered: Jun 99


 - posted 07-16-2004 06:37 PM      Profile for Mark Gulbrandsen   Email Mark Gulbrandsen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Actually about one out of every 20 to 25 motors might actually have a shorted winding. It is pretty rare and usually something else is amuk like a shorted doide. Its a good idea to turn the comutator down if it is even slightly worn. Worn comutators will wear out new brushes in a big hurry!! Also while its all apart new bearings should be installed. The whole procedure takes about an hour and parts are about 30.00 total. We rebuild about 15 a month on the average. If the motor cannot be repaired so its reliable then the Grainger motor(Amtek) is installed.

Mark @ CLACO

 |  IP: Logged

Ken Layton
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1452
From: Olympia, Wash. USA
Registered: Sep 1999


 - posted 07-16-2004 11:33 PM      Profile for Ken Layton   Email Ken Layton   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
And don't forget connectors, too. I've seen a few with bad/broken connector pins both on the motor end of the cable and in the platter arm.

Christopher:

I have the instructions and step-by-step photos I can email you tomorrow late afternoon/evening when I get back as I will be gone from 6:30 am till I think around 4pm.

[ 07-17-2004, 12:46 AM: Message edited by: Ken Layton ]

 |  IP: Logged

Christopher Wehrman
Film Handler

Posts: 15
From: St. Louis, Missouri
Registered: Apr 2001


 - posted 07-17-2004 03:26 PM      Profile for Christopher Wehrman   Author's Homepage   Email Christopher Wehrman   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks Mark and Ken,

I checked the diodes and connectors, all are fine. The comutators do look black, some more wore than others.

I know my boss wouldn't mind spending 75$ for new Grainger motors. He has bought a couple of complete new asymblies but they do not time well with the older motrs evan with the extra 1/2 shaft installed.

I'd rather go the Grainger route to be safe. All these platter systems were bought used and we have been open for bout4 years now. Motors are starting to drop like flys!

Ken, that would be greate if you could e-mail me those instructions.

Thaks alot guys for your help,
Chris

 |  IP: Logged

Ken Layton
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1452
From: Olympia, Wash. USA
Registered: Sep 1999


 - posted 07-17-2004 11:37 PM      Profile for Ken Layton   Email Ken Layton   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Christopher:

You've got mail. [Smile]

 |  IP: Logged

Stephen Frazza
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 161
From: Nutley, NJ, USA
Registered: Mar 2004


 - posted 07-18-2004 10:59 PM      Profile for Stephen Frazza   Author's Homepage   Email Stephen Frazza   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Ken, could you please e-mail those instructions also.

Thanks in advance

 |  IP: Logged

Ken Layton
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1452
From: Olympia, Wash. USA
Registered: Sep 1999


 - posted 07-19-2004 12:01 AM      Profile for Ken Layton   Email Ken Layton   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Stephen:

Need your email address to send the info to.

 |  IP: Logged

Stephen Frazza
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 161
From: Nutley, NJ, USA
Registered: Mar 2004


 - posted 07-19-2004 12:17 AM      Profile for Stephen Frazza   Author's Homepage   Email Stephen Frazza   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Sorry I didn't realize my e-mail was blocked.Just updated my profile.

 |  IP: Logged

Ken Layton
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1452
From: Olympia, Wash. USA
Registered: Sep 1999


 - posted 07-19-2004 01:16 AM      Profile for Ken Layton   Email Ken Layton   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Stephen:

You have mail.

 |  IP: Logged

Christopher Wehrman
Film Handler

Posts: 15
From: St. Louis, Missouri
Registered: Apr 2001


 - posted 07-19-2004 11:48 AM      Profile for Christopher Wehrman   Author's Homepage   Email Christopher Wehrman   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks Ken.
I got the attachments, they help out a lot.

 |  IP: Logged

Stephen Frazza
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 161
From: Nutley, NJ, USA
Registered: Mar 2004


 - posted 08-02-2004 12:28 PM      Profile for Stephen Frazza   Author's Homepage   Email Stephen Frazza   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Well I swapped a new grainger motor out with a bad one last week,
and it has been running perfectly over the weekend.

Once again thanks to film-tech!

 |  IP: Logged

Ken Layton
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1452
From: Olympia, Wash. USA
Registered: Sep 1999


 - posted 08-02-2004 05:54 PM      Profile for Ken Layton   Email Ken Layton   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Stephen:

How were my instructions and pictures? Were they helpful?

 |  IP: Logged

Stephen Frazza
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 161
From: Nutley, NJ, USA
Registered: Mar 2004


 - posted 08-02-2004 10:51 PM      Profile for Stephen Frazza   Author's Homepage   Email Stephen Frazza   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Ken:

Your instructions were great.The only difference was that I had to
use a 10-20 tap but otherwise everything else was right on.
1 question though ,on the lead that hooks to the cover plate with the switch ,there is the rubber seal and the plastic washers, why do the have you mount it to the cover and then block it off like that.
If it makes contact what happens?

Also where can you get the rubber belts on the drive wheels Grainger didn't have them.

Thanks again Ken

 |  IP: Logged

John Hawkinson
Film God

Posts: 2273
From: Cambridge, MA, USA
Registered: Feb 2002


 - posted 08-02-2004 11:42 PM      Profile for John Hawkinson   Email John Hawkinson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
#10 threads (and thus taps) come in 10-24 (NC) and 10-32 (NF), but not 10-20...which do you mean?

--jhawk

(there are also weird #10 taps, but not 10-20. 10-40 (NS -- National Special), as well as 10-28, 10-36, 10-48, 10-56, and 10-64...but you'll never see them.)

 |  IP: Logged

Ken Layton
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1452
From: Olympia, Wash. USA
Registered: Sep 1999


 - posted 08-03-2004 12:44 AM      Profile for Ken Layton   Email Ken Layton   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The belts/tires are ordered from your local Strong/Potts dealer and the part number is shown in the platter parts manual.

That one motor lead connects to a diode that is mounted on an insulated piece of plastic L bracket. The diode must be insulated from the motor frame.

All the motors I have rebuilt have all had 10-24 threaded screws in them.

 |  IP: Logged



All times are Central (GMT -6:00)
This topic comprises 2 pages: 1  2 
 
   Close Topic    Move Topic    Delete Topic    next oldest topic   next newest topic
 - Printer-friendly view of this topic
Hop To:



Powered by Infopop Corporation
UBB.classicTM 6.3.1.2

The Film-Tech Forums are designed for various members related to the cinema industry to express their opinions, viewpoints and testimonials on various products, services and events based upon speculation, personal knowledge and factual information through use, therefore all views represented here allow no liability upon the publishers of this web site and the owners of said views assume no liability for any ill will resulting from these postings. The posts made here are for educational as well as entertainment purposes and as such anyone viewing this portion of the website must accept these views as statements of the author of that opinion and agrees to release the authors from any and all liability.

© 1999-2020 Film-Tech Cinema Systems, LLC. All rights reserved.