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Cody Martin
Expert Film Handler

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From: Edinburgh, IN, USA
Registered: Jun 2004


 - posted 07-07-2004 07:35 PM      Profile for Cody Martin   Author's Homepage   Email Cody Martin   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hello everyone,

Just wanted to say that I picked my Motiograph AA projectors today from Derek Maxwell. Nice machines. I'm planning on cleaning them up and painting them over the next few months.

But for today I have a question. Does anyone know where I can find a motor shaft coupling? I'm not sure if this is the right name, but I have a feeling you guys know what I'm talking about.

Thanks,
Cody

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Mark Gulbrandsen
Film God

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From: Bountiful, Utah
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 - posted 07-07-2004 08:12 PM      Profile for Mark Gulbrandsen   Email Mark Gulbrandsen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
You can still get the coupling from Edw Wolk in Chicago. Or from any large bearing distributer such as Motion industries. The coupling was the most frequently replaced part on a Motiogrief. When you are going though them be sure that all the bearings turn freely, have good grease in them. Unfortunately there are very few parts still available for them, no sprockets, no pad rollers, and other normal necessities. AA's were also my first "home" projectors way back in the late 70's. I still have a first production month Model K head stashed away.

Mark @ CLACO

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Cody Martin
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From: Edinburgh, IN, USA
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 - posted 07-07-2004 08:34 PM      Profile for Cody Martin   Author's Homepage   Email Cody Martin   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks for your reply.

I'll try to find this part tonight. Since these are my first projectors they are more of a project than anything. Derek threw in some parts he got with the projectors so I'm lucky there. I am planning on cleaning everything up....I mean everything. I will also replace the bearings too.
Early tonight I stripped most of the electrical work out of the base...fun stuff. Man, that big knife type Frankenstein switch looks like it really had some power running through it. It still had the copper stranded wire attached...crazy. I may use it as a distrubution box and run my 120 to that and then to the switch and so on.

If anyone has any suggestions please msg me.

Thanks,
Cody

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Sam D. Chavez
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Martinez, CA USA
Registered: Aug 2003


 - posted 07-07-2004 11:23 PM      Profile for Sam D. Chavez   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
In an emergency, some techniciams have resorted to using something like 1/2 inch rubber hose as a coupling until they could find a suitable replacement.

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Ken Layton
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From: Olympia, Wash. USA
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 - posted 07-08-2004 10:05 AM      Profile for Ken Layton   Email Ken Layton   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The motor coupling is still available from Wolk.

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Dan Lyons
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 - posted 07-08-2004 01:46 PM      Profile for Dan Lyons   Email Dan Lyons   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Be sure to take many detailed before and after shots for the pic warehouse. [Big Grin] [Wink]

danny

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Cody Martin
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 - posted 07-08-2004 05:51 PM      Profile for Cody Martin   Author's Homepage   Email Cody Martin   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hello everyone,

Thanks for everyones support and help. I wanted to take some pictures today, but stupid batteries on the camera went dead. I had some free time today so here is what I did on todays restoration.

Nothing really exciting today. I removed the original wiring from the base, I must say that the drive-in used a lot of spices and tape. While looking through it there were a lot of breaks in the wiring that were touching the base...so this has to be replaced. I also removed the "knife" switch and light switch today along with all of the metal wire grommets. These will be cleaned up tomorrow.
I removed the gate cooling fan and tried to clean it out...unfortunately I cannot figure out how to get the darn thing open. I wonder if this small motor has no way to be opened. I really hope it does as the wiring to the motor has some rips in the casing and is a shock hazord.
I removed the doors from the motion head and sound head to have those cleaned up. Glass blasting would be ok for these right?
The last thing I did was to remove the exciter lamp wiring and divider as the wiring will need to be replaced and the "divider" needs cleaned and repainted.

Though it may not seem like a lot was done this all took an extremly long amount of time. I will need to paint the base sometime also...now that will take some work...a lot of sanding and a little love.

I will try to take pictures tomorrow and post them to my site and get them moved here maybe too.

Thanks for everyones help,
Cody

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Jon Miller
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 - posted 07-08-2004 08:41 PM      Profile for Jon Miller   Email Jon Miller   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Visit McMaster-Carr and type "flexible coupling" in the search box. You will find couplings of all sorts, from inexpensive spider couplings (sometimes called "Lovejoy couplings" for a major maker of the devices, these use a rubber insert) to more expensive spring metal affairs. You will need to specify a 1/2" bore to mate the motor and input shafts.

Good luck! [thumbsup]

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Robert Throop
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From: Vernon, NY USA
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 - posted 07-09-2004 01:18 PM      Profile for Robert Throop   Email Robert Throop   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Cody,
Do you know where your Motiographs came from? I seem to remember
Derek mentioning the West Rome drivein at Rome, NY. I used to work there.

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Cody Martin
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 - posted 07-09-2004 01:49 PM      Profile for Cody Martin   Author's Homepage   Email Cody Martin   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hello,

According to a shipping label on a box of parts from Filmack Studios these were located at the skyview drive in theatre in PA.

I started taking the sound head apart today..wow...lots of dust and grease mixed. I still can't figure out how to get a few of the shafts and gears out, but I think they are ok.

Thanks again,
Cody

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Gordon McLeod
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 - posted 07-09-2004 01:52 PM      Profile for Gordon McLeod   Email Gordon McLeod   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
hopefully they don't have drivein shutters in them

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Jeff Stricker
Master Film Handler

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From: Calumet, Mi USA
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 - posted 07-09-2004 03:33 PM      Profile for Jeff Stricker   Email Jeff Stricker   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I hear lots of motios made it into DI service. I picked one up a couple of years ago and, sure enough, it had a DI shutter. [thumbsdown] I was able to modify it however...but it was no easy task.

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Cody Martin
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Hey guys,

How do I check to see if it has a drive-in shutter?

Thanks,
Cody

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Cody Martin
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 - posted 07-11-2004 08:09 PM      Profile for Cody Martin   Author's Homepage   Email Cody Martin   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Today was another fun day..;-). I have reassembled most of the sound head, waiting for a few pieces to be sandblasted. I also still have to rewire the exciter and find a 9v power supply for it. I also still need a soundcell for it.

After fixing as much as I could of the sound head, I got the motion head out. Started removing sprockets to clean and allow myself to use them on the film. I also removed the shutter to clean that area up. The shutter was in a decent condition, I think I'm going to coat it with engine paint to cover up some metallic spots that are showing through. I also will need to wire up the framing light I believe still. There is also another light here(in the corner, courtesy light?) I'm not sure the voltage on this yet so will clean up and hookup just need put a bulb in it.

I also started removing the rust from the base with a wire brush, long job, but it'll be worth it in the end.

Thanks for everyones help. I'm still in need of a lens and soundcell if anyone can help.

Cody

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Dan Lyons
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Cody, have you considered using Hammerite spray paint on that base? It'll save you alot of work with that wire brush!

here

One my rusty simplex LL3 base i just wiped it down well to get all the loose dust, dirt, and rust off, then used about 3 cans to cover it. It gives a great glossy gun metal black finish and it made to be used right over rusty metal!

danny

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