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Ian Bailey
Master Film Handler

Posts: 317
From: Nambucca Heads, Australia
Registered: Jun 2003


 - posted 06-15-2004 08:49 AM      Profile for Ian Bailey   Email Ian Bailey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi
I have a Simplex with a Kelmar Gate/Trap/Turret.Can't get good focus(in W/S & C/S)on the right hand side of the screen.Could this simply be that both lenses need to be adjusted horizontally and then the projector repositioned.Screen size is 18ft wide with about a 26ft throw.I know from a previous thread that Mark G. mentioned about using Kelmar Jigs with this Turret,is that the only way to go about it?
The other problem with this setup is intermittent picture shake-one show rock steady,the next with the "shivers".I've ordered new bands for the gate and trap(the old ones feel like they are not tensioned equally and are showing signs of wear).Should this improve the picture shake and is there anything else to check?
[thumbsup] Thanks

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Darryl Spicer
Film God

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From: Lexington, KY, USA
Registered: Dec 2000


 - posted 06-15-2004 09:14 AM      Profile for Darryl Spicer     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Does the projector sit at an angle or is it straight on to the screen? Is the shake a jump or a weave. Weaving can be caused by a couple of things. A shaky lens turret or loose lateral guide rollers. If the projector is at an angle it is key stoning and the focus may be a problem in those instances. Some small amounts of keystone focus issues can be adjusted out by shimming the lens in to a slight offset position. I have seen this done before.

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Gordon McLeod
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From: Toronto Ontario Canada
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You may want to replace the gate bands if one is worn more than the other an uneven focus will result

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Dominic Espinosa
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Boulder Creek, CA.
Registered: Jan 2004


 - posted 06-15-2004 12:43 PM      Profile for Dominic Espinosa   Email Dominic Espinosa   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
It may be possible that the lens is just loose or mounted improperly.
I know it sounds dumb but I've seen in before.

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Ian Bailey
Master Film Handler

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From: Nambucca Heads, Australia
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 - posted 06-17-2004 03:02 AM      Profile for Ian Bailey   Email Ian Bailey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Darryl the projector is square to the screen,the picture shack is most noticeable in the Credits-I watched the same show finish twice the other day and the first one had steady credits and the second you could see the slight picture shake.
The focus problem I feel could be the bands,as Gordon mentioned(which I will replace as soon as I get them)but if not it could be both lenses are not set correctly horizontally but I'm not sure whether I need jigs or not to set the turret.
Dominic-the lenses and the turret are not loose or moving.
Thanks

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Mike Pennell
Expert Film Handler

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From: Tucson, AZ, USA
Registered: Apr 2003


 - posted 06-17-2004 04:49 AM      Profile for Mike Pennell   Email Mike Pennell   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Ian is the problem happening on both flat and scope?

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Paul G. Thompson
The Weenie Man

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From: Mount Vernon WA USA
Registered: Nov 2000


 - posted 06-18-2004 01:05 AM      Profile for Paul G. Thompson   Email Paul G. Thompson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Sounds like the guide posts for the shoe are sprung. Had that happen to me about 7 years ago. I "wanged" them back with a nut driver slipped on to the shaft. One side of the shoe was making heavier contact than the other side.

If you detect this sprung guide posts on a good visual inspection, the error you see should be obvious a keen eye.

If you think you can "wang" them back, be very careful. If you whomp it too hard, you'll have a handful of peanuts.

By the way, Gordon's comment may be well worth looking at.

John Westlund also had a problem just like that with his Century. Turns out the entire back casting (called the GIB in the manual I was looking at) was sprung.

If you have a guide pin missing on the back piece of the film trap or if there is a hunk of crap wedged between it, you will definately have one side in and one side out of focus.

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Peter Hall
Master Film Handler

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From: London, UK
Registered: Dec 2000


 - posted 06-18-2004 02:09 PM      Profile for Peter Hall   Author's Homepage   Email Peter Hall   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Try decreasing the lamp current drastically - if still there this will eliminate lamp focus/ heat. Is is worse on black backgrounds ? If so look at lamp and heat problems..

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