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Melyohin Roman
Film Handler

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From: Novosibirsk, Siberia, Russia
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With WinAMP + APT X-100 Decoder we can to play DTS CD disks for movies.
And what about encoding these .aud files?
APT site contain plugins for Cool Edit Pro (Adobe Audition) for work with *.spt, *.cut *.snd, *.dss, *.apt *.dss and *.daf) files, but NOT .AUD
Someone can help me?

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Floyd Justin Newton
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May be best to consult your theatre tech.

fjn
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Joe Redifer
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If you want to encode in DTS, you must have DVD Studio Pro 3 for the Mac. And no, nothing on Windows encodes DTS. HOWEVER this is not ATPTX1000 or whatever clever name the theaterical version uses. It is for the superior home codec.

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Bobby Henderson
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Surcode/Minnetonka audio has Windows based DTS encoders. They're just not cheap. The Surcode DTS encoder, which includes DVD-V and Music CD encoding is $1995. A standalone CD-only encoder runs $495. Surcode does not make a DTS encoder for APT-X100/theatrical format.

Surcode has encoders for DVD Audio MLP and various Dolby Digital encoders (they also make the DD 5.1 encoder for Adobe Premiere Pro).
www.surcode.com

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Wolff King Morrow
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quote: Melyohin Roman
APT site contain plugins for Cool Edit Pro (Adobe Audition) for work with *.spt, *.cut *.snd, *.dss, *.apt *.dss and *.daf) files, but NOT .AUD
That's because you have to buy their adobe audition plugin to manipulate .aud files. Here's a quote from their plugin page:

quote:
Compatibility with Scott Studios, Computer Concepts, Barrcode, The Management and generic apt-X™ files (.dss, .snd, .daf, .cut, .aud)
BTW, the plugin does allow you to encode from Windows. Here's the page I viewed:

apt-x plugin

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Joe Redifer
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I would be surprised if their .aud is the same thing as DTS' .aud.

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Wolff King Morrow
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It is. There is only one kind of .aud format, which is why they make you fill out a business validation form to order the plugin.

Edit: Looks like they now have it to where you must request a license from an actual manager. May be even more difficult to get that way. I guess they better hope the software doesn't get leaked to a file-sharing pirate...

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Melyohin Roman
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BTW, the plugin does allow you to encode from Windows. Here's the page I viewed:

See http://www.aptx.com/cepdownloadarea.asp - .aud files not supported!

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Melyohin Roman
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Nobody knows and cannot prompt?

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Gordon McLeod
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Why do you need to know?
If you are planning to encode your own disks then you are SOL as DTS charges a royalty for encoding per disk

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Melyohin Roman
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DTS demands payments also for decoding MOVIE DTS disks. But Winamp plugin APT X-100 Decoder makes it free-of-charge. Means encode it is possible free-of-charge :-)

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Gordon McLeod
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If you wish to bypass DTS royalties to encode dts then I sujest you take you questions elsewhere

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Steve Kraus
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Ah, but it wouldn't be DTS then would it? Just CD's with APT-X on it.

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Wolff King Morrow
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quote:
BTW, the plugin does allow you to encode from Windows. Here's the page I viewed:

See http://www.aptx.com/cepdownloadarea.asp - .aud files not supported!

Melyohin,
I already told you before in this thread they don't allow you to just freely download their .aud codec. It must be purchased from the licensing manager as part of the plugin package, meaning you're not likely to obtain one on your own.

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Melyohin Roman
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And from them the information:
The .aud file format was used by apt as a proprietary file format many years ago. It was based on the IDAS file format and was similar to an .snd file.

Have you some equipment that requires this format? A lot of the other file formats we list were modified versions of the .aud format to make them unique to Scott or the other manufacturers.

Explain, please, how it works?

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