Film-Tech Cinema Systems
Film-Tech Forum ARCHIVE


  
my profile | my password | search | faq & rules | forum home
  next oldest topic   next newest topic
» Film-Tech Forum ARCHIVE   » Operations   » Film Handlers' Forum   » Panoramascope and "Panorama Blue"

   
Author Topic: Panoramascope and "Panorama Blue"
Daniel Alt
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 111
From: Lakewood, OH, USA
Registered: Mar 2004


 - posted 05-28-2004 08:38 PM      Profile for Daniel Alt   Email Daniel Alt   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
So, while tidying up our booth, I ran across my very first X-rated trailer. This piqued my interest. It's for a movie called "Panorama Blue", which, according to in70mm.com, is the only known 70mm adult movie.

According to the trailer (and the website), the movie used something called "Panoramascope" about which there seems to be not much information on the web. Was this just a renaming of some other incarnation of 70mm which didn't wish to be associated with porn under its own name? Or was this a fly-by-night process which was nonetheless unique? The film is listed on the website as a blowup, but according to one source I found, was at least partially shot in 70mm.

One of the experienced projectionists at our house remembers projecting the movie a while back, and says that there was only one print ever struck.

Just curious, since this topic obviously has little practical relevance.

 |  IP: Logged

Bill Gabel
Film God

Posts: 3873
From: Technicolor / Postworks NY, USA
Registered: Jan 2002


 - posted 05-28-2004 08:50 PM      Profile for Bill Gabel   Email Bill Gabel   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
When it opened in Hollywood, California, it played at the Paramount Theatre in 70MM. The Paramount Theatre is now known as the El Capitan Theatre.

 |  IP: Logged

Gordon McLeod
Film God

Posts: 9532
From: Toronto Ontario Canada
Registered: Jun 99


 - posted 05-28-2004 09:05 PM      Profile for Gordon McLeod   Email Gordon McLeod   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
It played in Toronto at either the Eve or the Eden with a pair of rented JJ's

 |  IP: Logged

Steve Kraus
Film God

Posts: 4094
From: Chicago, IL, USA
Registered: May 2000


 - posted 05-28-2004 10:48 PM      Profile for Steve Kraus     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Haven't seen it but from what I've read it was softcore with some spoofing of This is Cinerama.

More info:
http://www.mhvf.net/forum/cult/posts/18438.html

 |  IP: Logged

Sam D. Chavez
Film God

Posts: 2153
From: Martinez, CA USA
Registered: Aug 2003


 - posted 05-28-2004 11:32 PM      Profile for Sam D. Chavez   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I ran it in 35mm mag, Guttag's favorite format. It was pretty soft in all senses and hardly worth the bother.

Now the Stewardesses, there was a movie.

 |  IP: Logged

Daniel Alt
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 111
From: Lakewood, OH, USA
Registered: Mar 2004


 - posted 05-29-2004 08:56 AM      Profile for Daniel Alt   Email Daniel Alt   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks for the link, Steve... that answered a lot of questions about "What the heck IS this thing."

However, I'm still sort of curious about the techincal aspects. Were any other films (I couldn't find any) billed as "Panoramascope?" Or was that just a play on the title of the movie?

 |  IP: Logged

Jeffry L. Johnson
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 809
From: Cleveland, Ohio, USA
Registered: Apr 2000


 - posted 05-29-2004 01:15 PM      Profile for Jeffry L. Johnson   Author's Homepage   Email Jeffry L. Johnson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Isn't it 70mm Super WideScreen Panoramascope?

When I booked that title for the CWRU Film Society, Dick Ellman of Ellman Films said Panorama Blue was photographed with a Mitchell camera.

The print arrived on 3 full 70mm reels, about 30 minutes per reel at 24 fps.

 |  IP: Logged

Jeff Joseph
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 131
From: Palmdale, CA, USA
Registered: Jun 2000


 - posted 05-29-2004 02:36 PM      Profile for Jeff Joseph   Author's Homepage   Email Jeff Joseph   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
A local film archive has a 70mm print of "Panorama Blue", I think.

Stewardesses: We are working with StereoVision (Chris Condon) on doing a restoration and new print on this title. Will keep everybody posted.

Jeff

 |  IP: Logged

Gordon McLeod
Film God

Posts: 9532
From: Toronto Ontario Canada
Registered: Jun 99


 - posted 05-29-2004 04:08 PM      Profile for Gordon McLeod   Email Gordon McLeod   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
We do excellent business in Toronto at the Royal Cinema when we run Stewardess every year

 |  IP: Logged

Paul Linfesty
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1383
From: Bakersfield, CA, USA
Registered: Nov 1999


 - posted 05-30-2004 11:54 AM      Profile for Paul Linfesty   Email Paul Linfesty   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The film was also presented in 70mm at the St. francis Theatre in San Francisco. The SF Chronicle review pointed out to the soft-core nature of the film (although the Chronicle would even review the occasional "hardcore film" back then, both straight and gay). If memory serves correctly, it was mentioned that even though the film starred John Holmes, you never saw below his belly-button!

 |  IP: Logged

Daniel Alt
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 111
From: Lakewood, OH, USA
Registered: Mar 2004


 - posted 05-30-2004 01:15 PM      Profile for Daniel Alt   Email Daniel Alt   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Isn't it 70mm Super WideScreen Panoramascope?

When I booked that title for the CWRU Film Society, Dick Ellman of Ellman Films said Panorama Blue was photographed with a Mitchell camera.

The print arrived on 3 full 70mm reels, about 30 minutes per reel at 24 fps.

Er.. Jeff, that's the booth where I found the trailer, and the only place I project... I don't think we've met yet, but I hear lots of stories about you from Jim and Charlie. Maybe I'll see you this summer if I can get in to help with the sound refit.

And yes, I believe that IS the full folderol on the trailer.. thanks for the technical info.

 |  IP: Logged

Steve Kraus
Film God

Posts: 4094
From: Chicago, IL, USA
Registered: May 2000


 - posted 05-30-2004 08:56 PM      Profile for Steve Kraus     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
"Photographed with a Mitchell camera" doesn't help much as that could just as easily be 65mm or 35mm.

 |  IP: Logged



All times are Central (GMT -6:00)  
   Close Topic    Move Topic    Delete Topic    next oldest topic   next newest topic
 - Printer-friendly view of this topic
Hop To:



Powered by Infopop Corporation
UBB.classicTM 6.3.1.2

The Film-Tech Forums are designed for various members related to the cinema industry to express their opinions, viewpoints and testimonials on various products, services and events based upon speculation, personal knowledge and factual information through use, therefore all views represented here allow no liability upon the publishers of this web site and the owners of said views assume no liability for any ill will resulting from these postings. The posts made here are for educational as well as entertainment purposes and as such anyone viewing this portion of the website must accept these views as statements of the author of that opinion and agrees to release the authors from any and all liability.

© 1999-2020 Film-Tech Cinema Systems, LLC. All rights reserved.