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Kerry Fleming
Film Handler

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From: Boynton Beach, FL, USA
Registered: Mar 2003


 - posted 02-29-2004 06:25 PM      Profile for Kerry Fleming   Author's Homepage   Email Kerry Fleming   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Can anyone advise me what the operating voltage should be on the Kelmar cue/failsafe systems.

My fail safe is working fine but, the cue system isn't worth "a hill of beans."

My thinking is that the voltage to too low for the cue tape to be detected.

Your thoughts on this please.

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Adam Martin
I'm not even gonna point out the irony.

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From: Dallas, TX
Registered: Nov 2000


 - posted 02-29-2004 07:30 PM      Profile for Adam Martin   Author's Homepage   Email Adam Martin       Edit/Delete Post 
We're probably gonna need to know what model failsafe and what automation you're working with here.

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Randy Stankey
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From: Erie, Pennsylvania
Registered: Jun 99


 - posted 02-29-2004 11:23 PM      Profile for Randy Stankey   Email Randy Stankey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
12 vdc.

I used to have one. I used a 12 v power supply from Radio Shack to run it. Worked fine that way!

Does the little red LED at the top of the gun light?
Are you using a big enough patch of foil? I don't recollect they were as sensitive as the FM-35 is.

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Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!

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From: Annapolis, MD
Registered: Dec 1999


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The current Kelmar cue detector is the best at picking off cues...it will read cues off the base or emulsion and I have yet to have one mis a cue.

Steve

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Kerry Fleming
Film Handler

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From: Boynton Beach, FL, USA
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 - posted 03-01-2004 05:18 PM      Profile for Kerry Fleming   Author's Homepage   Email Kerry Fleming   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I have two types of Kelmar detectors/fail safes in the booth.
They are pictured on kelmarsystems.com
Listed as Universal 35mm Detector UDH-1-100/132 &
UDH-1-160/132.
They are connected to a circuit board, also Kelmar, designed
to enhance cue detection.
I suspect this is a 12 VDC system.
But, only reading 6VDC under best conditions.
Some as little as 4 VDC.
At that voltage no wonder the system seldom works!

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Randy Stankey
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From: Erie, Pennsylvania
Registered: Jun 99


 - posted 03-01-2004 05:27 PM      Profile for Randy Stankey   Email Randy Stankey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I had the bare bones detector/FS. Didn't have any relay boards or anything.

I made the relay board for mine. All from parts ripped out of old junk in my basement. I used miniature 12v relays, wired them up to the detector guns and gave the whole shebang a resistor/fuse just for safety. Wired it all up on a piece of breadboard and put it in a plastic project case I got from Radio Shack.

The power supply had enough to supply all three of the relays then just a bit more for safety. It worked great for me. Never had a problem with it. In fact, when I got my new automation, I sold it in the WTB forum here on FT. As far as I know it all still works. The guy I sold it to hasn't written me any nast letters. [Wink]

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