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Author Topic: If Money Was No Object... Tom Holland Film Handler Posts: 15 From: Hidden Hills, CA, USA Registered: May 2002 posted 02-22-2004 10:50 PM                     Hypothetical Question: If you were putting together a non-platter theater approved for Nitrate and archival print projection... where cost was not a concern... what equipment (specifically 16mm, 35mm, 70mm, DLP and the finest audio processing) what would you install?  |  IP: Logged Steve Kraus Film God Posts: 4094 From: Chicago, IL, USA Registered: May 2000 posted 02-22-2004 11:37 PM                    Super Simplexes! All you need for 70mm is a 7, an 0 and two m's for the marquee. They'll never know. Okay...how about a pair of Norelco AA-II's, Eastman 25's and CP200+DA20?  |  IP: Logged Tom Holland Film Handler Posts: 15 From: Hidden Hills, CA, USA Registered: May 2002 posted 02-22-2004 11:46 PM                     Thanks Steve. The following has also been suggested: dual 35mm Kinoton's and 16mm Kinoton and a Texas Instruments DLP. For audio: the latest Smart processor combined with a DTS-6 and the newest Dolby unit. Aren't Kinoton's generally considered the finest?  |  IP: Logged Stephen Jones Master Film Handler Posts: 314 From: Geelong Victoria Australia Registered: Jun 99 posted 02-22-2004 11:56 PM                     They are the finest in my book.Been using various Kinoton models for years with no probs. Steve  |  IP: Logged Aaron Sisemore Flaming Ribs beat Reeses Peanut Butter Cups any day! Posts: 3061 From: Rockwall TX USA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 02-23-2004 02:26 AM                     Can you get nitrate-approved magazines for modern Kinotons? My vote is for AAII/DP70s for 35/70 and Eastman 25 for 16mm. Strong, Christie SLH, or Kneisley lamphouse for xenon, Peerless Magnarcs (small venue) or Strong Futura IIs (large venue) for carbon. -Aaron  |  IP: Logged Stephen Jones Master Film Handler Posts: 314 From: Geelong Victoria Australia Registered: Jun 99 posted 02-23-2004 04:51 AM                     Hi Aaron, The Kinotons dont have Magazines as such.All models can run spls if needed eg FP50Ds and the FP30Ds includeing the E series can run 2000' and 7000' spls.In the manual it strongly states not to use nitrate film on them. Steve  |  IP: Logged William Hooper Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1879 From: Mobile, AL USA Registered: Jun 99 posted 02-23-2004 06:30 AM                        quote: Strong Futura IIs (large venue) for carbon. What size carbons do the Futura II's burn? Why do you like them, Aaron?  |  IP: Logged Steve Kraus Film God Posts: 4094 From: Chicago, IL, USA Registered: May 2000 posted 02-23-2004 10:39 AM                    I don't remember off the top of my head but it was a fat uncoated positive (current entry via water-cooled silver jaws) and copper-coated negative. The nitrate requirement is why I didn't suggest Kinotone, normally cited by many as the best of the best. Let me amend my Norelco AA-II recommendation to say these would be modified with Kinotone basement readers (anything else being kind of a kluge and probably disruptive of nitrate safety) and inverter-drive variable speed motors to handle silents at proper speed. You can probably find a sine wave inverter to drive the Eastman 25's with their twin sync motors at variable speeds without the motors balking at a funky waveform. Chicago's James Bond used to do this with an oscillator and a hefty audio amplifier.  |  IP: Logged Aaron Sisemore Flaming Ribs beat Reeses Peanut Butter Cups any day! Posts: 3061 From: Rockwall TX USA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 02-23-2004 12:29 PM                     I believe it was a 14mm uncoated joinable positive and 12mm coated negative in the Futura II (it has been a looong time since running them) I like them because they put out awesome light! they were far brighter than the (4500-5kW?) xenon that replaced them at the drive-in I worked at years ago. They were pretty easy to maintain as well. -Aaron  |  IP: Logged Floyd Justin Newton Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 559 From: Phoenix, Arizona, USA Registered: Jun 2002 posted 02-23-2004 12:44 PM                     Aaron-- How about 13.6 mm Pos & 9/16" Copper Coated neg. fjn  |  IP: Logged Christian Appelt Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 505 From: Frankfurt, Germany Registered: Dec 2001 posted 02-23-2004 01:16 PM                     I would add a non-intermittent machine for old and shrunken prints which will run through a Steenbeck, but may be damaged by a standard intermittent. IIRC, Sondor/Perfectone of Switzerland made a good machine, at least the sharpness looked fine while the steadiness was not as good as with a conventional machine. A 16mm xenon machine like a Bauer Selecton II with 1600W lamp, an ELMO or Eiki xenon machine (with some modifications) could not hurt, there still are some beautiful 16mm prints out there worth showing! How about a Elmo ST1200 Xenon stereo machine, or one of the huge Fumeo Super 8 machines? (But what about Regular 8 and 9.5mm )  |  IP: Logged Mark J. Marshall Film God Posts: 3188 From: New Castle, DE, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 02-23-2004 06:25 PM                    Tom, Make sure the motors can interlock so you can host Jeff's next 3D Expo! Oh, and don't forget the silver screen. And try not to lay it on the chairs  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 02-23-2004 06:34 PM                     I would not be messing around with any of this crap and would be restoring a Big Boy Locomotive . Mark  |  IP: Logged William Hooper Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1879 From: Mobile, AL USA Registered: Jun 99 posted 02-24-2004 12:21 AM                        I'm looking at a booth that has a gutted Futura behind one projector (no jaws, no reflector), & something stupid like an Orcon behind the other. How often do Futuras show up as unused & obsoleted equipment?  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 02-24-2004 10:03 AM                     I always felt the corelight was a better lamphouse than the futura My choice for this type of booth would be a pair of the FP75E style machines as they could do anything  |  IP: Logged

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