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Bill Enos
Film God

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From: Richmond, Virginia, USA
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Last night I was looking around the booth thinking "what is the most reliable thing in here", then my thought was interrupted by the ding....ding....ding of the Hatke Reel End Alarm and I knew. These things are at least 50 years old, have only one moving part, and I've never had a failure in 18 years. They are a marvel of simplicity. Designed today, it would probably have 40 parts and 10 adjustments or at least two microprocessors and require a computer with proprietary software to operate a tenth as reliably. Anybody know the history of them?

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Edward Jurich
Master Film Handler

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Aren't those the ones that use ball bearings that when the reel spins fast enough they ring the bell. Those things may never wear out.

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Kenneth Wuepper
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These units were a Godsend. The feed magazines of the era were equipped with a little arm that has a weight at one end near a bell on the outside while, inside the magazine the arm terminated in a small roller. This roller ran on the emulsion side of the film. As the spool emptied the arm would fall, the weight springing against the bell just once.

The problem with the sensor arm was that if it stopped, the little roller would scratch the image . Even when turning, it would press very hard against the film as it passed the radius point of the spool. Threading was a trick also, causing many pinched fingers, as you had to hold the arm up until the reel edge passed the arm on the way into the magazine.

The Hatke was a very good tool for improving print life. (Some operators missed fewer reel changes since there were 3 rings instead of one.)

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Paul G. Thompson
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Hatke reel alarms rock! I still have two of them laying around.

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Don Sneed
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I woke up from a many of good sleep while working a single screen booth in my younger days, it sure was the best, can y'all remember the days of putting a quarter or a fender washer in the film when rewinding to ding the film mag....now that this was mention....the reel end alarm was the most reliable piece of equiptment in the booth.... [Razz]

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William Hooper
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I like the ones with the long thin arm & weight hanging below. They look like they're busy even when they're not ringing.

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Steve Kraus
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I have the pendulum-type alarms, too, although mine seem somewhat homemade.

Most reliable equipment: Is there anything more reliable than a traditional projector base?

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Edward Jurich
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Is there anything more reliable than a traditional
projector base?
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Not if it has an elevation adjustment that keeps slipping
[Big Grin]

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Scott Norwood
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RCA Photophone racks are pretty reliable. It's interesting to see how many theatres are still using them, usually with modern Dolby systems installed.

Neumade handcrank rewinds are good, too.

I hate hearing the reel-end alarm bells in the auditorium. There are few things more annoying to the audience than hearing bells ringing during the film. They're fine if the insulation in the booth is good, however.

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Jeremy Fuentes
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Technicolor reels are pretty reliable..oh damnit I forgot to take my medication again, sorry people.

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Aaron Sisemore
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I have seen a Brenkert base/pedestal where the mount for the soundhead (a casting) actually cracked in half and the whole projector came crashing to the floor in the middle of a show! [Eek!]

-Aaron

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Richard Greco
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The most reliable piece of equipment in my booth would be the chair I sit in [Smile]

Everything seems to always break down!

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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I think Richard may hhit the nail on the head... The projectionists stool is certainly well made.

I too have had base problems with LL3's parts cracking. Just repaired a colar on the elevation control of one of my rental bases!!

Mark @ CLACO

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Chris Hipp
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I dunno, my sound rack towers are pretty reliable, havent had one fall over yet, even when run into it on a scooter.

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Randy Stankey
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quote:

Jeremy Fuentes: Technicolor reels are pretty reliable...

Reliably BAD!

So I guess, if you can rely on something to be bad, then it IS reliable! No?

[Big Grin]

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