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Peter Mork
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 181
From: Newton, MA, USA
Registered: Jun 2002


 - posted 01-26-2004 11:37 PM      Profile for Peter Mork   Email Peter Mork   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Here is a question whose answer makes zero difference but it's always bugged me.

When I open a shipping can from the depot, dollars to donuts the reels will be in numerical order from right to left.

Where did this odd convention come from? Is it some sort of shipping room superstition? Or do the shipping people speak Hebrew (hence read right-to-left)?

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Brad Miller
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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99


 - posted 01-27-2004 12:07 AM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
I've seen it forever and I don't know why. I read left to right, so my prints always get shipped back out left to right. Heck, I even reorient them in the cans left to right before I start building up. It's more natural.

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Robert D. LaValley
Film Handler

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From: Florida
Registered: Aug 2003


 - posted 01-27-2004 12:39 AM      Profile for Robert D. LaValley   Email Robert D. LaValley   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I haven't noticed that as much as when I get prints that are all heads up with one lonely reel in the middle tails up.. or when they alternate heads up tails up heads up... drives me nutz..

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Mark Hajducki
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Edinburgh, UK
Registered: May 2003


 - posted 01-27-2004 05:12 AM      Profile for Mark Hajducki   Email Mark Hajducki   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
In the UK the reels just come in a random order (usually) despite most projectionists putting them in the shipping boxes in some order. Additionally all the reels need to be taken out of the box to determine the order.

Dosen't bother me since I usually start making up the film with reel 4 anyway

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Kenneth Wuepper
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Saginaw, MI, USA
Registered: Feb 2002


 - posted 01-27-2004 07:41 AM      Profile for Kenneth Wuepper   Email Kenneth Wuepper   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
When removing films from the platter, they come off from last reel to first reel. Therefore the placement, from left to right, in the shipping case is very natural.
Single reels and changeover house operation:
When shipping reels were trustworthy, the shipping reel was placed into the takeup magazine and after running the reel it was banded and placed into the shipping container, (Tails out).

Either the exchange or the next theatre would inspect the film and then it would be ready to project from the heads out winding.
When films arrived very late (yes they did then also) you might be able to put the reels from the shipper directly into the machine and run the first show from the shipping case. In 50 years of projection I was fortunate never to have received a headsup film from the exchange which did not run successfully. It was our policy to insoect all reels to house reels before showing (if time permitted).

KEN

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Michael Cunningham
Expert Film Handler

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From: Anchorage, AK
Registered: Nov 1999


 - posted 01-28-2004 02:16 AM      Profile for Michael Cunningham   Email Michael Cunningham   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
This orientation makes sense to me. Since it is natural to set the film cans on the left side of the build table, where you will be loading the reels onto the feed spindle, if you open the lids to the left, the reels will be in numerical order from top to bottom. I hope that makes sense although reading back it looks rather confusing?!?

- Mike

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Mathew Molloy
Master Film Handler

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From: The Santa Cruz Mountains
Registered: Nov 2000


 - posted 01-28-2004 02:35 AM      Profile for Mathew Molloy   Email Mathew Molloy   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Somehow I've picked up the habit of shipping prints out as follows...

If the reels are heads out then they're placed in the cans numerically left to right.
If the reels are tails out then they go in numerically right to left.

Probably because I usually inspect films in reverse order when running changeovers so I can put the last two reels on house reels and use the shipping reels as take-up for reels 1 & 2.

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