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Author Topic: Which Model Projector Ian Bailey Master Film Handler Posts: 317 From: Nambucca Heads, Australia Registered: Jun 2003 posted 01-23-2004 06:01 PM                     I need to know the model of this projector which is connected to the soundhead in my previous post and if parts are still available.  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-23-2004 06:07 PM                        Looks like a Simplex X-L (PR-1014) with Kelmar turret modification. The original version would have had a single lens holder. The PR-1014 is a current model and parts are definitely available from Strong. No idea on the Kelmar modification; it looks like the gate and trap are completely different from the original Simplex design.  |  IP: Logged Mike Perju Film Handler Posts: 90 From: Toronto, Canada Registered: Nov 2002 posted 01-23-2004 09:20 PM                     That is a 1014 with a Kelmar turret; they had to have the front of the machine cut out. You can find out more about it on Kelmar's website. It also has a Kelmar curved gate and a automatic apt. plate changer. The gate is a payne in the ass to thread, is prety loud, and produces a shaky picture.  |  IP: Logged Michael Schaffer "Where is the Boardwalk Hotel?" Posts: 4143 From: Boston, MA Registered: Apr 2002 posted 01-24-2004 02:06 AM                        I was going to say, the gate looks unusual. But you just explained it. But why replace the original gate?  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-24-2004 02:06 AM                     Mike, I regularly retrofit just the Kelmar gates onto straight gate Simplex's and have had only good results with them. They don't fall apart like the Simplex's do And they only have about 1/10th the amount of parts as is found in a Simplex assy. There are two minor mods that need to be done to it before I install it. The first is to replace that spring on the rail that makes it pop open with a bit lighter spring. The next is to do a slight mod to the latch mechanism to keep r closing soo far...it almost pinches the film at the input and output ends! The ewasy adjustment will increase the clearance at the input and output ends of the gate. The first mod makes it alot easier to close with just your fingers and the second mod makes it run alot quieter and reduces needless tension on the film. The Century version can be used as is. There are no minor things that need to be done to it. Mark @ CLACO  |  IP: Logged Ian Bailey Master Film Handler Posts: 317 From: Nambucca Heads, Australia Registered: Jun 2003 posted 01-24-2004 03:00 AM                     Mark What do you do to the latch mechanism to stop it closing so far?  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-24-2004 02:42 PM                     Those turrets are a POS they can't be watter cooled and air cooled have major focus issues with anything over 2.5K lamps Also many lens will not work in the turret due to length  |  IP: Logged John T. Hendrickson, Jr Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 889 From: Freehold, NJ, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 01-24-2004 04:28 PM                     Hey Mark- I have two of those rebuilds on Centurys and one of them (scope lens) is just slightly out of alignment (verticle). What's the trick to getting it just right? I don't have a manual to go with it, and a check in the manuals section (Kelmar SA Century Upgrades) didn't provide any instruction. Would appreciate your expetise.  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-24-2004 09:26 PM                     it is a very simple course alignement loosen the large allen screw and the lens will wooble around till you get it where you would like it and then lock it down  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-24-2004 11:50 PM                     "they can't be watter cooled " Gord, Try thnkig positive about a product just once..... Sure it can be done and it only takes a small amount of inginuity to do it. Water cooling a Kelmar gate assy is an easy thing to do. Very similar to water cooling an X-L trap. We have them operating day in and day out on 4K lamps here in SLC. Resolution is close to 80 line pairs across the screen with a Schneider Super Cinelux. Not bad by any standard and probably about what that lens is capable of! I'll certinaly continue to use them and have done so since they came out. Mark @ CLACO  |  IP: Logged Richard Fowler Film God Posts: 2392 From: Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA Registered: Jun 2001 posted 01-25-2004 12:34 AM                     According to Andy Marglin ( The "Mar" of Kelmar ) the machined aircraft aluminum is more tolerant to heat than the more common brass used in other traps. We installed many with 3 and 4 kw with cold reflectors with no problems. Mounting a water jacket is no sweat. Lens problems while threading can be solved by jogging the lens partial cycle to clear and can be done as a easy modification if required.  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 01-25-2004 10:05 AM                     Remember Mark, what "lenses" our guy Gordy uses though...Snake ore and other "brands." Steve  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-25-2004 02:43 PM                     Ahhh yes, Snake-Ore. I sometimes find both out in the desert. Snakes and Ore. I love the desert and its vastness ...its such a cool place to explore and the last great frontier to show a film outdoors. Mark  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-25-2004 02:59 PM                     lets see you put a magnacom on the flat lens in one then As for what brand of lens a turret shouldn't be brand specific either The biggest issues I have had with lens in them were with short focallength schnieders  |  IP: Logged Manny Knowles "What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???" Posts: 4247 From: Bloomington, IN, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 01-25-2004 06:44 PM                     I love my Kelmar gates and lens turrets!  |  IP: Logged

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