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Bruk Mogos
Film Handler

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 - posted 01-07-2004 11:33 PM      Profile for Bruk Mogos   Email Bruk Mogos   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I am trying to install some new Strong Change Over Dowsers into some Strong Super Lume-X projectors, and I need the wiring diagram. If any of you have installed some or if you know the exact combination to connect this dowser please help. I have installed this dowser on a CFS consoles before and it was very simple, but this Lume-X are kind tricky.

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Tim Reed
Better Projection Pays

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 - posted 01-08-2004 06:48 AM      Profile for Tim Reed   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Super LumeX is a lamphouse, not a projector. Regardless, the coil wiring should be the same.

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Gordon McLeod
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 - posted 01-08-2004 08:58 AM      Profile for Gordon McLeod   Email Gordon McLeod   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Are you reffering to the motor driven dowsers
If so the dowser blade must be removed and the shaft and handle pulled out the new shaft inserted. The constant stall motor mounts on the non operating side. The hardest part is putting the dowser plate back on and keeping the shaft in a accessable place

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Bruk Mogos
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 - posted 01-08-2004 04:24 PM      Profile for Bruk Mogos   Email Bruk Mogos   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Tim, yes the lamphouse is Super LumeX and the dowsers I am mounting are on a Century projector heads, but since they never had any dowser installed before,so the wiring can't be the same. Hey Gordon,luckily this are not motor driven dowsers, they are made by Strong/Balanttyn.And the thing is they were shipped without wiring instruction. Also I have seen a picture in this forum about this dowser in different subject.http://www.film-tech.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=004905#000001 (is like this one post by German)

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Phil Hill
I love my cootie bug

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 - posted 01-08-2004 05:57 PM      Profile for Phil Hill   Email Phil Hill       Edit/Delete Post 
FYI: A "dowser" is someone who looks for water who uses a "divining rod" or a divining rod or stick itself.

A "douser" is something that stops the light.

>>> Phil

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Brad Miller
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 - posted 01-08-2004 06:17 PM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
Bruk, what you want is already in the manual archives here...

click here

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Dave Macaulay
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 - posted 01-08-2004 07:41 PM      Profile for Dave Macaulay   Email Dave Macaulay   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Assuming you got them mechanically installed OK so that you can manually operate them and the changeover plate slides up and down properly:
Even though the new models look different from the old Zippers, the wiring hasn't changed. The "Essannay Electric Strong Zipper changeover adjusting and wiring sheets" at the link Brad gives above will show you how to connect them.
Don't be too surprised that Strong didn't include instructions, this is a hallowed tradition. Just try to find official setup instructions for a Simplex XL mechanism, or a real circuit diagram for an SPA-7.

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Tim Reed
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 - posted 01-08-2004 10:39 PM      Profile for Tim Reed   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
since they never had any dowser installed before,so the wiring can't be the same.
Sure it can. I'm talking about the coil wiring. As Dave noted, it should be identical to the coil wiring in every machine in the booth, as it's the same assembly internally. I.E., white=neutral, black=open, brown=close (although that may not be the specific order, just an example).

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Phil Hill
I love my cootie bug

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 - posted 01-09-2004 10:26 PM      Profile for Phil Hill   Email Phil Hill       Edit/Delete Post 
Well, I got a rude private email from a member regarding my correction of the correct use of the word "douser" vs. "dowser".

While my post was not specific to anyone, that person obviously took offense to my post. So be it. If the shoe fits...etc.

I would have replied in private, but that person doesn't have the balls to allow a private response by hidding their email so I'll respond here in general.

Just because some manuals mis-use the term and the spelling, that is NO reason for you to perpetuate the stupidity.

Look it up in the real world and LEARN. Then apply what you have learned.

But please, next time at least have the courtesy to allow for a private reply.

>>> Phil

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Michael Schaffer
"Where is the
Boardwalk Hotel?"

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 - posted 01-10-2004 01:04 AM      Profile for Michael Schaffer   Author's Homepage   Email Michael Schaffer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I would be inerested to know what language the name Bruk Mogos derives from (both first and last name). I cannot place it.

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Floyd Justin Newton
Jedi Master Film Handler

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 - posted 01-10-2004 08:14 AM      Profile for Floyd Justin Newton   Email Floyd Justin Newton   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Michael--

I was born in Texas many moons ago and I've heard of names
that I've never heard of before. Hell take a gander at MY
name.... I never heard of it until I heard it for the first
time! [Big Grin]
fjn

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Tim Reed
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quote:
Well, I got a rude private email from a member regarding my correction of the correct use of the word "douser" vs. "dowser".
You old coot, don't you know there is no right or wrong as long as you understand the meaning!?
[Wink]

People sometimes get defensive when corrected on spelling and/or grammatical errors. I guess they think you're somehow calling them "stupid" or something. It's just ignorance, which is not a put-down, it just means they don't know.

A lot of the banter here and on the Internet contains simple typos, but there's a good amount of consistent misspellings, too, which are besetting.

IMHO, writing and spelling skills have been on the decline ever since public schools stopped teaching phonics. Last year, my 8 year old's teacher told us that they weren't concerned with the children getting it right (spelling), as long as the thought was there. I maintained, if they don't learn it right to begin with, then they'll take those bad habits with them into adulthood. To this, the teacher just sort of shrugged his shoulders and gave me a 'oh, well, what are ya gonna do' gesture.

While on the subject, some of my pet peeves:
  • "then" when the writer means than;
  • "than" for then;
  • "queue mark" for cue mark;
  • "aperature" for aperture;
  • "moter" for motor;
  • "projecter" for projector;
  • "projectionest" for projectionist; and
  • "theater" for theatre! (yeah, I know there are two spellings...)
[Smile] As well as the ones Michael Schaffer lists on his signature.

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Phil Hill
I love my cootie bug

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Ummm Tim, I didn't say it was someone who posted in this thread... [Razz]

quote:
While on the subject, some of my pet peeves:
You forgot the most evil of all:

Camera for Projector.

"Is that beta ya runin' on them thar cameras? Y'know what um sayin'?"

Duh, Yup I do [beer] !

>>> Phil

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Tim Reed
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Oh, I didn't mean to insinuate that. I was speaking in general terms.

Yes, the camera/projector thing has irked me since jr. high school! I used to get, "Duh-huh! Those are really big cameras in there!" all the time at the drive-ins.

And film/tape - almost as evil.

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Michael Schaffer
"Where is the
Boardwalk Hotel?"

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quote:
Last year, my 8 year old's teacher told us that they weren't concerned with the children getting it right (spelling), as long as the thought was there.
You could tell this teacher that for the past 2 1/2 millenia or so before he came along, it has been the basis of Western civilization not just to have thoughts, but to try and express them in a defined way. That includes getting the spelling of words right. There is no point in getting upset over small mistakes, but in general, one should try to formulate one`s thoughts as clearly as possible, and that includes spelling correctly. He is not doing his job properly if he doesn`t help the children develop these skills.

Floyd - that wasn`t a joke, I am very interested in linguistics. I always try to find the origin of names and words, and I have never come across the name "Bruk" before, or can place it in the context of any language I know. So I am really interested to learn where it comes from.

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