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Author Topic: Crap Code on LOTR:FOTR(SE) - wtf? Paul Linfesty Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1383 From: Bakersfield, CA, USA Registered: Nov 1999 posted 12-06-2003 10:27 PM                     An entire REEL ruined with those pesky red dots. Why? Why? Why? This SE has already been out on VHS (very copyable)and DVD (somewhat copyable) for MORE THAN A YEAR! And the SE is CURRENTLY showing on STARZ Movie Channel! So WHO THE HELL is going to go to the trouble to PIRATE this new print???  |  IP: Logged Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 12-06-2003 10:32 PM                        Don't you understand, piracy has become a sport. The crap code will win this match, by default, since nobody's going to bother pirating it.  |  IP: Logged John Hawkinson Film God Posts: 2273 From: Cambridge, MA, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 12-08-2003 11:24 AM                     It would be a good question to ask someone at New Line. I assume that no one thought about the fact that it was already out and just proceded with their machine-like habitual CAPcoding. Incidently, the print I saw had a lot of negative hair and ocasionally strange black splotches on the left edge of the image. Did anyone else see these (outside of Boston)? --jhawk  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 12-08-2003 11:37 AM                        I think John is probably right. They are just doing it because that's what they always do and they'll be damned if they put any thought into the process.  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 12-08-2003 11:58 AM                        jhawk wrote: quote: Incidently, the print I saw had a lot of negative hair and ocasionally strange black splotches on the left edge of the image. Did anyone else see these (outside of Boston)? Occasional blotches along the left side of the image are usually due to accidental "bleeding" or spashing of the soundtrack redeveloper, a problem that will be eliminated with the conversion to cyan dye analog soundtracks. New Line usually uses another manufacturer's print film.  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 12-08-2003 04:20 PM                     The prints stated that they were on Fuji stock. The lowering of quality will be what any conversion to cyan will bring...now conversion to digital projection will eliminate the other anomolies. Of course...new digitally perfect artifacts will replace them. Steve  |  IP: Logged John Hawkinson Film God Posts: 2273 From: Cambridge, MA, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 12-08-2003 04:25 PM                     I don't think it was soundtrack developer; they were opaque blotches that were only present for a frame or so, and they had no purple tinge to them. --jhawk  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 12-08-2003 04:45 PM                     Yes Red Square Pixel Cap Codes is the digetal improvement  |  IP: Logged Jim Leko Film Handler Posts: 90 From: Redondo Beach, CA, USA Registered: May 2002 posted 12-09-2003 12:33 AM                     American Cinematographer: The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers quote: TECHNICAL SPECS Super 35mm 2.35:1 Arriflex, Moviecam and Mitchell cameras Zeiss and Angenieux lenses Kodak EXR 50D 5245, Vision 200T 5293, Vision 500T 5279, SO 214 Digital Intermediate Scanning/Recording by Weta Digital Digital Film Grading by The PostHouse AG Printed on Fuji 3513D I saw FOTR today, and I was upset with the CRAP codes as well. The Extended Edition of FOTR has been on DVD for almost 14 months. You can get a pirated copy online that will look much better than anything that could be ripped off from within a theater. The first few reels seemed ok. Then all of the sudden, it was shock and awe. They were everywhere.  |  IP: Logged John Hawkinson Film God Posts: 2273 From: Cambridge, MA, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 12-09-2003 02:10 AM                     "They were everywhere." Really? I didn't see them until reel 9. Was the coded reel variable? --jhawk  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 12-09-2003 10:51 AM                        jhawk wrote: quote: I don't think it was soundtrack developer; they were opaque blotches that were only present for a frame or so, and they had no purple tinge to them. When the soundtrack developer splashes or bleeds into the picture area, it converts silver halide back to silver within the image which won't be cleaned out by the 2nd fixer. The silver appears as gray or black over the image. No "purple tinge": Here are the Kodak ECP-2D process specifications: http://www.kodak.com/US/plugins/acrobat/en/motion/support/processing/h249/h2409.pdf  |  IP: Logged Scott Jentsch Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1061 From: New Berlin, WI, USA Registered: Apr 2003 posted 12-10-2003 04:29 PM                        Attended FOTR-SE last night at Marcus Ridge Cinema in New Berlin, WI, and the Crap Code was all over the reel where they are in Lorien. Every time Galadriel appeared on screen, she would have Chicken Pox. Fortunately, I didn't see it anywhere else during the film.  |  IP: Logged Charles Everett Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1470 From: New Jersey Registered: May 2001 posted 12-11-2003 05:00 PM                     CRAP Code on mainstream movies, CRAP Code on arthouse product, now CRAP Code on re-releases. The Triple Crown!  |  IP: Logged Liam Utley Film Handler Posts: 42 From: Australia Registered: Oct 2003 posted 12-11-2003 09:15 PM                    The cinema i work at received an email stating that ROTK will have anti-piracy coding... please, for the sake of all that is good (and my sanity), please dont let it be LOTR: ROTCAP!!! I felt that CAP code really took my focus off the movie during Kill Bill during the B&W scenes. I'll wait for the dvd so that i can enjoy it properly.  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 12-11-2003 10:05 PM                     I didn't notice any crap code on "Last Samauri"... Anyone else notice it? Mark  |  IP: Logged

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