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Antonio Marcheselli
Phenomenal Film Handler

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 - posted 11-23-2003 07:57 PM      Profile for Antonio Marcheselli   Author's Homepage   Email Antonio Marcheselli   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi everyone.

I was wondering how important is the screen for the sound. I saw that different type of screen has different hole's size. How much this will play against the HF response of the system?

Bye
A

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Sam Hunter
Jedi Master Film Handler

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 - posted 11-24-2003 09:57 AM      Profile for Sam Hunter   Email Sam Hunter   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Maybe you can get the info off the screen makers website [Confused]
I would think that a lot of small holes would equal the same as a screen with lesser holes but larger in size.

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Dave Macaulay
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 - posted 11-25-2003 07:46 AM      Profile for Dave Macaulay   Email Dave Macaulay   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
My observation:
Normal cinema perf (the bigger holes) screens affect sound the same as microperf. A new b-chain alignment should be done if the screen is switched but there isn't s humungous difference. I hear more difference replacing an old heavy coated fabric screen witrh a new vinyl sheet.
Microperf has no advantage in a normal cinema. You can't see the standard perfs from the viewing distance. In a small screening room or home theatre micropoerf is required so the perfs don't become a visual distraction.
Both perforation styles have about 10% perf area.

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Andrew Lee
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 - posted 11-25-2003 09:18 AM      Profile for Andrew Lee   Email Andrew Lee   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Actually micro-perf void area differs depending on manufacturer. It can be anywhere from 4-10%. Standard cinema perforations can be 5-8%, again depending on manufacturer. Hole diameter on a standard screen is 0.045"-0.050" while micro runs 0.020"-0.025".

There are differences in transmission readings (however slight) at the high end of the frequency band between standard and micro perforation. Speaker distance to screen and angular placement have a much more distinct affect on response with micro than with standard cinema perforation.

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Gary Crawford
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 - posted 11-25-2003 11:59 AM      Profile for Gary Crawford   Email Gary Crawford   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Being at this awhile, I haven't really noticed big differences from big to little perfs (without test equipment at least).

However, we were restoring an old theatre some years ago and set up a speaker onstage for test purposes of the sound system. It sounded flat, actually terrible. Then I remembered what an oldtimer had told me years ago, that a speaker (on a stage) had to be centered at about 5-1/2 feet off the floor, about the height of a person's mouth. When we set the speaker on a table the sound improved like you wouldn't believe! The accoustics of the old barn were designed for live actors. Not sure if this applies to multi's, but it might be worth checking out.

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Pete Lawrence
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 - posted 11-26-2003 02:11 PM      Profile for Pete Lawrence   Email Pete Lawrence   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Here are a few comparison curves from MDI's web site. MDI frequency response curves Response and perf percentage will vary somewhat with different manufacturers.

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Antonio Marcheselli
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 - posted 11-26-2003 07:43 PM      Profile for Antonio Marcheselli   Author's Homepage   Email Antonio Marcheselli   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks for the link, very intresting.

Someone noted differences between different screen's manufacturer?

Bye
A

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Dave Macaulay
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 - posted 11-27-2003 08:14 AM      Profile for Dave Macaulay   Email Dave Macaulay   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Stewart screens have about 10% perforation on their cineperf and microperf products. I didn't check into MDI.

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