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Kyle Watkins
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From: Stuart, FL, USA
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Im looking for one of these. any one have any
suggestions, were to buy.

Kyle

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Steve Guttag
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Some projector manufacturers have them that are specific to the projector model.

Schneider makes/packages a nifty, albeit expensive, tool that will allow precise alignment from the lens to the aperture.

Schneider Alignment Gauge

Steve

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Kyle Watkins
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It be for the Ernemann 15. I dont know, but is there one specific for this proj.

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Gordon McLeod
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Is this to align the gate to lens or the gate to intermitent sprocket

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Kyle Watkins
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gate to the intermitent sprocket.

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Gordon McLeod
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Lavezzi makes a standard one also a piece of stainless steel film can be handy

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Michael Schaffer
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The Lavezzi parts catalog lists the AG1 and the AFG1. How are these used best?

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Kyle Watkins
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Can you buy form lavezzi or they sell only through dealers.

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Adam Martin
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How/why are either of these used? (Gate-to-lens and gate-to-intermittent) Basically to make sure everything is squared up?

I can see where a lens would need alignment, but what would cause a gate to be out of alignment from the intermittent? Bad design?

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John Pytlak
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Kodak used to supply 35mm wide perforated "steel film" to aid in alignment:

FAQ "Steel Film"

Stiff 7-mil polyester processing leader, perforated KS-1870, can serve the same purpose:

"Steel Film" Alternative

7-Mil Blue Polyester 35mm Leader Perforated KS-1870

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Steve Guttag
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Ah...but John, before it was gone...I bought Kodak CS-1870 perforated steel film... nothing else will do...

If you are squared up using CS perfs, the KS perfs are aligned by definition.

VKF sprockets (not the VKF II) will fit the CS perf and allow very good alignment.

It is too bad Kodak can't supply CS perf steel film (or the 7-mil poly). There is much less slop that way.

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John Pytlak
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quote:
It is too bad Kodak can't supply CS perf steel film (or the 7-mil poly). There is much less slop that way.

Good idea. I'll see if we can have FPC perforate the stiff 7-mil blue polyester leader as CS-1870. (But if a perforator is still set up for CS-1870, I'm not sure they would want to risk damaging the punch and die set perforating the thick polyester leader).

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Pete Lawrence
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To answer Kyle's question, Lavezzi will sell direct via their website. Lavezzi on line catalog

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Gordon McLeod
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Adam most gates hve guide rollers and rails that need to be aligned to the intermitent sprocket position

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Mark J. Marshall
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Stupid question...

What's KS-1870 and CS-1870?

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