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Author Topic: Kinoton E Series Tim Killen Film Handler Posts: 13 From: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Registered: Mar 2000 posted 10-19-2003 07:58 PM                     Just Wondering if anybody out there has had any experience with the E series projectors from Kinoton. Was wondering what issues you may have had, and suggestions as to what spare parts would be handy to have on hand that differ from the D Series Projector. TK  |  IP: Logged Dave Macaulay Film God Posts: 2321 From: Toronto, Canada Registered: Apr 2001 posted 10-19-2003 09:51 PM                     We installed 4 last year. No problems with regular use. Assuming the gate parts are the same as the D type, no pecial parts needed. The E drive stuff is all expensive and probably not worth keeping on hand - the motor or circuit boards may fail but a full set would be a huge investment.  |  IP: Logged William Bunch Film Handler Posts: 87 From: Misawa, Japan Registered: Nov 2001 posted 10-21-2003 04:20 PM                        We are installing the FP25E tomorrow. First one for us. I am looking forward to it. I'll let you know how it goes. There is a recommended spare parts list but it is at my office. Also some contacts for some great folks with good answers to everything Kinoton. I'll post again later. Bill BuncH Misawa, Japan  |  IP: Logged Larry Shaw Expert Film Handler Posts: 238 From: Boston, MA, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 10-27-2003 09:41 AM                        Tim, I agree with Dave about stocking a lot of stuff for the E drive. Those parts aren't cheap, and they rarely fail. Sort of like: would you stock a Geneva movement? I'd certianly stock things like framing lamps and gate parts (skate and runner strips; they are not the same as a D - because of the different intermittent sprocket). Other stuff like sprockets, apertures, belts, etc...it depends on your situation. For example Bill might want to stock more than some folks because he is on a government installation in a foreign country.  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 10-27-2003 11:42 AM                     I generally make sure there is a complete set of wearable parts as spares. As mentioned...Skates and runner strips (the runner strips are included in the accessory kit), belts, O-rings (for the sound pinch roller and accellerator if you have it). Steve  |  IP: Logged William Bunch Film Handler Posts: 87 From: Misawa, Japan Registered: Nov 2001 posted 10-28-2003 02:47 AM                        Good heads up Larry. We are are at the end of the food chain out here but so far are getting pretty good support out of Tokyo. In about an hour we will be showing our first movie to the public. So far this machine is a sweetheart. It is so amazing how well it thinks for you. More later. Bill Bunch Misawa, Japan  |  IP: Logged Michael Schaffer "Where is the Boardwalk Hotel?" Posts: 4143 From: Boston, MA Registered: Apr 2002 posted 10-29-2003 02:09 AM                        Tip for the E series: you can frame down forever since there is no physical limitation. Make sure you don`t make the lower loop too big, because if you frame the film down in the event of a bad splice or another emergency the loop could get so big that it hits the shutter house. You probably already found out that the button which advances the film slowly frame by frame will make the machine forward the film at full speed without igniting the lamp if you hold it down. Since it is placed a little unhappily on the front of the projector, I would recommend you to place a little sticker with a felt surface on it so that you can always find it blindly. Do you have an automatic lens turret? These can be touchy and go out of alignment. There is a little board with which you can quickly realign it. Ask your dealer for the board. They should give it to you for free since you bought a complete new machine.  |  IP: Logged William Bunch Film Handler Posts: 87 From: Misawa, Japan Registered: Nov 2001 posted 10-30-2003 10:32 PM                        Thanks, Michael ! I'm not sure which button you speak of for 'frame-by-frame' function but will look for it. We have several unlabled buttons on the console. You are correct about the auto turret. My installers played with that for a long while. Sometimes when we change lenses manually it will fumble and stop in between. But I have noticed that it never fails to land perfectly when activated by the automation. So far anyway. I sat through the movie "Grind" last night. Not my kind of movie for sure but one thing I did notice was the extreme detail in the film with good contrast and color saturation from corner to corner. I praise the Kinoton lamphouse on this machine. It is highly efficient at what it does. It gets all the light through the film and out to the screen. So easy to focus! Any other querks about this machine that you know of, please pass them along. We are extremely happy with its performance. Bill BuncH Misawa, Japan  |  IP: Logged Michael Schaffer "Where is the Boardwalk Hotel?" Posts: 4143 From: Boston, MA Registered: Apr 2002 posted 10-31-2003 12:08 AM                        I mean the button which transports the film slowly frame by frame so that you can check your framing in the aperture. If you hold it down, it will speed the projector up to regular speed. This function can be customized, you can program the machine for how quickly you want to accelerate to full speed. The button should be labeled POS (as in position).  |  IP: Logged Mark Hathaway Film Handler Posts: 31 From: Australia Registered: Nov 2001 posted 10-31-2003 06:12 AM                     William, the turret issue is easily fixed, it probably only needs programming. If you are an authorized Kinoton dealer, ask the factory for a turret programming card and the software to properly program the turret card. The latest programming card has a rs-232 interface to connect to a notebook with kinoton's software. The problem *might* also be the aperture/turret control card over the top of the aperture changer in the back of the projector. As far as quality goes, the FP30E is my favorite, an amazingly steady image. Mark Hathaway Atlab Image and Sound Technology Melbourne, Australia  |  IP: Logged William Bunch Film Handler Posts: 87 From: Misawa, Japan Registered: Nov 2001 posted 11-01-2003 06:37 PM                        I found the POS button, Michael and now I see what you mean. I can hold it down and it will run up to speed. Can you explain the proper use of the plastic knurled knob on the constant speed sprocket below the gate? We are still learning stuff. Bill BuncH Misawa, Japan  |  IP: Logged Michael Schaffer "Where is the Boardwalk Hotel?" Posts: 4143 From: Boston, MA Registered: Apr 2002 posted 11-01-2003 06:41 PM                        It is for forwarding the projector manually. But that is a bit tedious. You can actually take it off. Using the step-by-step function is much better. Remember to put a little sticker or a felt pad on it so you can find it without looking. Are your controls on the front of the projector or is there a little control panel attached to the projector, facing the operator? I mean the controls on the projector, not the tableau on the wall.  |  IP: Logged William Bunch Film Handler Posts: 87 From: Misawa, Japan Registered: Nov 2001 posted 11-02-2003 05:34 AM                        All the control buttons are in the square box and the box is fastened to the side facing the operator. It's right under the sound head. This box is connected by a flexible cable so it could be placed in other areas too.  |  IP: Logged William Bunch Film Handler Posts: 87 From: Misawa, Japan Registered: Nov 2001 posted 11-04-2003 04:58 AM                        Now here is something I found interesting today while studying the FP25E. When the machine is first started the intermittent sprocket runs as a constant speed sprocket until full speed is achieved. Then it snaps into the "intermittent" mode. I wonder what is the reason for this and what advantages are achieved. Not complaining. Just wondering. Actually this machine is a real dreamship and one would have to look hard to find something to complain about. I love it.  |  IP: Logged Pete Naples Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1565 From: Dunfermline, Scotland Registered: Feb 2001 posted 11-04-2003 05:06 PM                     The Christie Epic does that too, it's SO quiet until the intermittent goes into show mode!  |  IP: Logged

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