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Author Topic: Ivie IE-33 Matt Zeiner Expert Film Handler Posts: 146 From: Windsor, CT USA Registered: Sep 2003 posted 10-18-2003 07:18 PM                     Anyone using this analyzer yet? Seems pretty serious and the potential for upgrades via software is enormous.  |  IP: Logged Michael Schaffer "Where is the Boardwalk Hotel?" Posts: 4143 From: Boston, MA Registered: Apr 2002 posted 10-18-2003 10:21 PM                        I have ordered one but they messed up the order so I won`t have it until next week. However, I have promised to write an exclusive review, so it will be a while until I find the time to do that and I am not allowed to disclose any information before that  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 10-19-2003 12:31 PM                     Looks like it has got some possibilities. I've always liked my PC-40 and its given me great service for the most part of about 10 years. It does need to be dismantled and things tightened up inside a couple of times a year though. I going to wait till the new THX analyzer emerges, if it actually does, and also to hear back on reliability of the Ivie...and its software quirks if any. There are also other high end analyzers to explore as well. Mark @ CLACO  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 10-19-2003 01:11 PM                     Goldline now has a palm software anaylzer  |  IP: Logged Matt Zeiner Expert Film Handler Posts: 146 From: Windsor, CT USA Registered: Sep 2003 posted 10-19-2003 03:00 PM                     The Goldline product, from what the website shows is not even comparable to the Ivie product - it includes no hardware and is limited to whatever cheapo generic converters are in the PDA. I certainly wouldn't trust them. At least the Ivie comes with high quality 20 bit ADCs and instrumentation grade preamps for the line inputs. One of the best features of the Ivie is that you can store calibration info for several different microphones, and I can keep my good 'ol IE-2p. I had a Goldline RTA and hated it. It just felt like a cheap piece of crap to me.  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 10-19-2003 03:23 PM                     quote" I had a Goldline RTA and hated it. It just felt like a cheap piece of crap to me." We have several of the Goldline DSP30's and have had no complaints other than the need toreset the AD register on a chgans sometimes They are extremely accurate DSP filters and have reasonable balasitics  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 10-19-2003 04:06 PM                     Gord, Filters more accurate than what ISO specifies are fine but not necessary for our type of work. However, IVIE products and many others have always typically exceeded the ISO specs for the band pass filters. Thats not a miracle by any means, even the old late 60's Altec/HP Acousta Voicette Analyzer exceeded them. Aside from IVIE analyzers being really well made, the feature that sets IVIE analyzers apart from others is the really fine implementation of the microphones they sell. They cost as much as many of the entire analyzers that others on this forum are using !! Unfortunately IVIE has as of yet to design and market a mic multiplexer. According to an engineer that I met there, it was something they were intending to do years ago till the advent of the R-2. I'm also afraid that their system would have been out of reach price wise of just about everyone here. Lets see....4 mics at 1200.00 each plus a multiplexer plus an analyzer......$$$$$$$$$$$$ !!!!!! Mark @ CLACO  |  IP: Logged Michael Schaffer "Where is the Boardwalk Hotel?" Posts: 4143 From: Boston, MA Registered: Apr 2002 posted 10-19-2003 05:14 PM                        And it comes from Utah!  |  IP: Logged Matt Zeiner Expert Film Handler Posts: 146 From: Windsor, CT USA Registered: Sep 2003 posted 10-19-2003 06:06 PM                     quote: feature that sets IVIE analyzers apart from others is the really fine implementation of the microphones they sell Yep. That's exactly it. The IE-2 is a phenominal preamp, regardless of what capsule you use with it. You get what you pay for. Glad you had good luck with Goldline products, Gordon. Our Goldlines sit in our cabinet unused. You want 'em? Yeah, Mark I get your point about the lack of multiplexer, but with the new Ivie's calibration features (read about 'em), you should be able to use anyone's mux unit with them. I don't trust any multiplexer or preamp to the extent that I trust my IE-2 w/B&K, and hence I never use just the mux for an alignment. Call me superstitious.  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 10-19-2003 07:53 PM                     Well I have 4 of the dsp30's and the R2 so I don't thinkl I need any more RTA's right now The dsp30 with a uslmux has usally mathed the R2 within 2 db every time I have used the two of them in the same room On the MUX issue if you don't use a MUX then you are not doing your customer a service. You canot Eq a room without one end of argument The audience sits in the far field of the speaker array not in the near field and we don't want a "sweet spot" in one location  |  IP: Logged Christopher Seo Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 530 From: Los Angeles, CA Registered: Jun 99 posted 10-20-2003 02:46 AM                     Matt, Out of curiosity... what Brüel & Kjær microphone capsule do you use, and why in place of the Ivie? Have you had the RTA recalibrated to the different mic?  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 10-20-2003 08:24 AM                     Chris, I may be wrong, but so far as I know IVIE is using B&K capsules on their mics. At 1200.00 for an IVIE mic thats a pretty good clue. I can certainly call them and find out today. They are not a large enough company to actually be making their own capsules, in fact they are but a shadow of what they once were according to other techs around this area. Michael, I go near the IVIE plant at least two or three times a week, perhaps I can stop there and test Michaels new unit before it hits the road Matt, I can't complain about the preamps in the R-2. They're quiet, stable, and very reliabe. Certainly far better than the Countryman mics being used. Mark @ CLACO  |  IP: Logged Demetris Thoupis Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1240 From: Aradippou, Larnaca, Cyprus Registered: Apr 2001 posted 10-20-2003 09:01 AM                     From the looks of it, it can work as an analyzer fine for cinema equalisation but it says that it has SINGLE osciloscope trace (although from the pics there are two channel inputs). If anyone has any more information please share them!! Demetris.  |  IP: Logged Matt Zeiner Expert Film Handler Posts: 146 From: Windsor, CT USA Registered: Sep 2003 posted 10-20-2003 11:16 AM                     Actually Ivie is not supplying B&K as standard equipment - the capsules they are currently using are made in america - can't remember the name of the company... The IE-2 I inherited has a B&K 4942 capsule in it. I don't doubt the quality of the preamps in the R-2, Mark. I wish I could get my hands on one myself, but alas... I am forced to rely on the USL mux for most of my work in the field. I always double-check everything against the IE-2 and usually find no more than 2db of discrepency between the single mic properly placed and the output of my mux. The point I wanted to make was that the new Ivie supplies high-grade conversion and line-level ins whereas the Goldline does not. Ivie says they will upgrade the software to allow a dual trace oscilloscope function, but I don't think that it will compare to a hardware-based unit in any respect. Just think DFP-3000 setup software scope display....forget it!  |  IP: Logged Michael Schaffer "Where is the Boardwalk Hotel?" Posts: 4143 From: Boston, MA Registered: Apr 2002 posted 10-20-2003 02:54 PM                        Mark - Too late, it`s already on the road. UPS says it is in Las Vegas today, I hope it doesn`t get stuck there gambling. But thanks for the offer! Matt - since Gordon doesn`t need it, I will take one of the Goldlines. I think the IE-33 will cover most or all of my needs, but having another analyzer as backup is never wrong. I will mail your our address. Thanks a lot in advance.  |  IP: Logged

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