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Author Topic: Intolerable Cruelty platter assembly Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 10-09-2003 04:41 AM                     Normally I wouldn't post this here in the FHF, but before a ton of people build their prints of Intolerable Cruelty, please check this link. I checked a print that I assembled in this manner tonight and if you follow my instructions in that link above it will provide a perfectly smooth transition between reels. The splice happens during a line of dialogue. If your theater is playing this movie, please print those instructions and give to the projectionist so the film may be cut properly.  |  IP: Logged Mark J. Marshall Film God Posts: 3188 From: New Castle, DE, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 10-09-2003 09:03 AM                    Thanks Brad. Any word on whether all the prints are like that, or if it's just a certain batch or what? Mark  |  IP: Logged Manny Knowles "What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???" Posts: 4247 From: Bloomington, IN, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 10-09-2003 11:18 AM                     We should all return our prints and demand replacements, on the grounds of intolerable cruelty!  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 10-09-2003 01:23 PM                        quote: Any word on whether all the prints are like that, or if it's just a certain batch or what? Generally, that's an editorial decision on how the negative is cut, and would affect all release prints. It's upstream of the lab.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 10-09-2003 02:16 PM                     Odds are it affects all prints. Just look at the optical track before you make your cuts like I explained on the link and you will be able to verify.  |  IP: Logged Jason Black Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1723 From: Myrtle Beach, SC, USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 10-09-2003 08:57 PM                        Screening my print now. I printed the link re:frame cutting, so hopefully I have my cut correct. I cut in 18 frames from the cut line on R6.  |  IP: Logged Frank Bruno Film Handler Posts: 50 From: houston, tx Registered: Aug 2003 posted 10-09-2003 11:20 PM                     At the risk of sounding stupid, that would be 18 frames into reel 6 from the first frame with an image correct? Ill be screening a print of this tomorrow morning before opening & i had cut my print one frame before the "splice here" at the end of R5 & one frame into R6. So if I detect this sound hiccup tomorrow morning Ill want to go 17 more frames into R6, cut & splice there?  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 10-10-2003 01:51 AM                     No, you need to lose the first 16 frames of reel 6 to make it line up properly. From your description, you left an "ID" frame at the head and tail around the splice, which accounts for 2 frames.  |  IP: Logged Frank Bruno Film Handler Posts: 50 From: houston, tx Registered: Aug 2003 posted 10-10-2003 02:59 AM                     I just cut one frame for ID, as while I was taught to cut two it kinda bugs me when I get used prints & instead of removing older splices people have just kept hacking off another 2 or 3 frames (in some miniscule way I've convinced myself i've managed to skightly retard the above complaint, although I may myself be the only thing retarded here ) Thanks for the help.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 10-10-2003 06:10 AM                     Whoever taught you to cut two ID frames needs to be taken to the roof of the theater, tossed over the side into the dumpster, then compacted. Never, ever cut more than one. This reel 5 to 6 splice is an extremely rare screwup.  |  IP: Logged Darryl Spicer Film God Posts: 3250 From: Lexington, KY, USA Registered: Dec 2000 posted 10-10-2003 09:43 AM                    No whoever originaly taught the persons before him should be taken to the roof. All others are just a bi-product of the originals stupidity. As far as ID framis on the movie in question. you don't need one on the end of reel five. Just cut it were it says cut here.  |  IP: Logged Robb Johnston Expert Film Handler Posts: 147 From: St. Louis Suburbs Registered: Nov 1999 posted 10-11-2003 10:19 AM                        Ironically (is that how it is spelled?) when the print that I watched was built up, I was called over to marvel that there was an explicit cut line, which we both thought was a great idea. that indication did determine where the cut was made. When that print was screened that night in SDDS, there was no repetition of dialog. So I guess SDDS buildings luck out in this case.  |  IP: Logged Ken Lackner Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1907 From: Atlanta, GA, USA Registered: Sep 2001 posted 10-11-2003 01:55 PM                     I built this print and did notice the "hiccup" in sound when I screened it. But I did not attempt to fix it because I really didn't know what to do to correct it and I did not want to make things worse. quote: Since the beginning of reel 6 has no visual action, I feel this is this the better alternative. I thought the end of R5 had black and R6 starts imediately with a scene???  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 10-11-2003 02:41 PM                     SDDS and DTS have different offset points, so they could luck out as apparently SDDS did. There is no way to check this visually without running it. Visual "action". In other words, nothing was moving.  |  IP: Logged Michael Swarbrick Film Handler Posts: 23 From: London, England Registered: Jan 2002 posted 10-13-2003 09:16 AM                     Brad Miller said: quote: This reel 5 to 6 splice is an extremely rare screwup. Except I've found another film with one! It's Beyond Borders (new Angelina Jolie film). You know there's gonna be trouble when they put a reel change during the credits! The print I had was too important and I was told not to cut any ID frames off, so taking off 10 frames or so was out of the question too, the director was watching the show. To avoid the sound hiccup though, cut the tail of the previous reel (Reel 7, I think) at the last changeover cue, which is easily visible.  |  IP: Logged

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