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Author Topic: Freddy vs Jason Anti-Piracy Measures Jason Black Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1723 From: Myrtle Beach, SC, USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 08-16-2003 10:05 PM                        Anyone else notice the series of red "dots" in the film? They appear at random intervals throughout the print. Two scenes in particular 1) In the cornfield where the keg is cut open by Jason. Look at the left middle of the screen. 2) Where the daughter is arguing with her father on the stairwell in the house. These are two of the scenes that I remember. I have no examined the film off the platter, as I didn't build it. These red 'dots" appear to be some sort of coding, but they are complete;ly visible to the eye. I can see them, my booth guys have seen them but when I questioned a patron whom I was sitting beside, they never saw them at all. Anyone else care to add insight to this? I'm figuring it's another way of "coding" the prints so that bootleg versions can be more easily tracked down to regional locations?? We all know that most bootlegs come from screeners or employees with know-how anyway.... Anyone?  |  IP: Logged Don Furr Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 509 From: Sun City, Ca USA Registered: Nov 2002 posted 08-16-2003 10:41 PM                     I noticed the exact marks viewing the film yesterday. Those are anti-piracy marks hopefully making it possible to track the bootlegs videos to the originating prints. Good luck!! Don  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 08-16-2003 10:44 PM                     Yeah, that's the CAP code, but the guys at the lab are REALLY overdoing it these days! The markings on this print was downright distracting. You know it's bad when regular Joes off of the street notice.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 08-16-2003 10:48 PM                        It could be New Line's version of Cap Code. Cap Code was created by John Pytlak and his team to thwart evildoers. But Cap Code has an advantage and that's that it is hard to see unless you are looking for it. From the sounds of it, what New Line is doing is far more obvious and distracting. The only reason I can figure as to why they'd make it so visible is because most pirated movies end up on the net as a small crappy DivX file or whatnot. That may make it harder to see normal Cap Code, if you could even see it at all. Of course if this is indeed copy protection, then it can easily be defeated. Since it is so easy to see, the movie pirate could just but up a "censor block" of some kind over the dots for those few frames so that the source can not be tracked down. Good idea but poorly implemented.  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 08-16-2003 11:13 PM                        The original CAP Code I helped Kodak develop for the MPAA could be repeated hundreds of time per reel, and never in the same place in the image, so simply cutting it out was impractical.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 08-16-2003 11:21 PM                        Another reason why this new thing is pretty much ineffective.  |  IP: Logged Andrew Duggan Expert Film Handler Posts: 127 From: Albany, NY, USA Registered: Jun 2002 posted 08-17-2003 12:42 AM                        As well as really annoying. I noticed this earlier tonight, and was both baffled and pissed off.  |  IP: Logged Mike Heenan Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1896 From: Scottsdale, AZ, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 08-17-2003 01:05 AM                     I at first thought this was some gimmick with the print, that they were blood splotches (kind of like the subliminal shots inserted in Fight Club) but I thought they were too small, and then as the movie went on I figured it out and became annoyed with them.  |  IP: Logged Ron Lacheur Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 650 From: British Columbia, Canada Registered: Feb 2002 posted 08-17-2003 05:46 AM                     They weren't red on the print I saw. They were black and VERY distracting. I saw real obvious ones that looked like Tetris playing pieces.  |  IP: Logged John Carpenter Film Handler Posts: 96 From: Fort Walton Beach, FL, USA Registered: Nov 2002 posted 08-17-2003 11:23 AM                     All 3 of our prints had it too, but I think we mostly noticed it in only reel 3?? The looked liked reversed and upside down "L"s made up of dots in a red-orange color. In dark scences it was very annoying. I wonder if anyone called these in as defective prints  |  IP: Logged Mark J. Marshall Film God Posts: 3188 From: New Castle, DE, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 08-17-2003 01:42 PM                    The studios are probably baffled as to why the dots they've been using the prints aren't showing up in the downloadable versions of their films, so they're starting to make the dots darker. Maybe they should try coding their screener videos the same way. Yes, I noticed it also. Bright blood red, about two dozen times (no exageration) in the third reel. Mine all appeared to be strategically placed quick brite spots - like lightning flashes. Maybe it's just a coincidence.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 08-17-2003 05:18 PM                        quote: Maybe they should try coding their screener videos the same way. I suggested this in a different thread. John Pytlak said that would be too difficult (or something along those lines -- not an exact quote). If the studios really ARE interested in vaquishing piracy, which they are not, then they WOULD code the screener videos.... individually. And it would be like the Cap Code: Used in different parts of the screen, only throughout the ENTIRE video instead of just a single reel or two. But since the studios don't care much about piracy, they don't feel that it's worth the effort to do this and stop the culprits. So obviously the studios cannot be serious about this piracy thing. How much more stupid can the studios get?  |  IP: Logged John Wilson Film God Posts: 5438 From: Sydney, Australia. Registered: Dec 1999 posted 08-17-2003 10:28 PM                     There was a print we ran recently (maybe HULK) that the image went completely white and BAM! there were the cap code dots. Thankfully, not on both prints in that spot, so that was the print that was despatched first. Die Another Day was another one overloaded with cap code.  |  IP: Logged Ron Keillor Expert Film Handler Posts: 166 From: Vancouver, B.C. Canada Registered: Jul 2003 posted 08-17-2003 10:40 PM                     from ananova.com Movie bosses have formed a task force to tackle a £400 million film piracy racket in the UK. Piracy increased by more than 80% in the past year, according to figures from the Federation Against Copyright Theft - with copies mostly of poor quality and often funding organised crime. Fake DVDs of the second Tomb Raider movie The Cradle Of Life are already on sale on British streets - even though the film doesn't receive its UK premiere until Tuesday. The task force will be chaired by Nigel Green of the UK Film Council and includes representatives of the Department for Culture, Media and Sport, UK film producers, distributors, cinema chiefs and Equity. Its aim is to map out the extent of the problem and spot long-term solutions, such as toughening up the law. Officials from the UK Film Council, which has co-ordinated the Anti-Piracy Taskforce, found the Tomb Raider II DVDs for sale for £5 each in London's Oxford Street. A spokesman said: "They were shocking quality and there was no sound for at least the first five minutes." Seizures in 2002 were double those of the previous year with 659,000 illegal copies at a potential value of £10 million recovered. One seizure in Hornsey, north London, netted 100,000 DVDs, worth an estimated £1,425,000, as well as computer equipment, artwork, and DVD labels, according to FACT. The products were traced to the Far East. Piracy is believed to have cost the UK film industry £400 million in the past year, FACT says. Illegal copies are often sold at car boot fairs and street markets. They are well packaged to look like the real thing but often suffer from poor sound, colour and clarity. UK successes such as Bend it like Beckham, Gosford Park and 28 Days Later have all been targeted by pirates while Hollywood hits The Hulk, Terminator 3 and Pirates of the Caribbean have been on the streets before a cinema release. Around one in three videos purchased in the UK are believed to be copies, and the number of DVDs is rocketing. Fakes, which can usually be spotted because they have no BBFC classification, often fund crime syndicates. Story filed: 09:11 Sunday 17th August 2003  |  IP: Logged Mike Olpin Chop Chop! Posts: 1852 From: Dallas, TX Registered: Jan 2002 posted 08-29-2003 10:52 PM                     There baaaack! Really bad Tetris style markings now appearing in "Jeepers Creeprs 2" This is really bad THESE NEED TO BE STOPED NOW!  |  IP: Logged

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