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Author Topic: Awesome 3D festival in San Diego Michael Schaffer "Where is the Boardwalk Hotel?" Posts: 4143 From: Boston, MA Registered: Apr 2002 posted 08-15-2003 03:32 PM                        http://www.ultrastarmovies.com/3d.html [ 10-18-2003, 04:10 PM: Message edited by: Michael Schaffer ]  |  IP: Logged Mike Olpin Chop Chop! Posts: 1852 From: Dallas, TX Registered: Jan 2002 posted 08-16-2003 02:05 AM                     I'll be there!!!  |  IP: Logged Richard Fowler Film God Posts: 2392 From: Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA Registered: Jun 2001 posted 08-16-2003 09:05 AM                     Chris Condon of StereoVision has been carrying the 3D flag for many years as this format tends to reappear in 10 - 15 year cycles. He was involved in many of the over/under widescreen and side by side anamorphic 3D systems and tracking down features for reissues. I met him in the early 1970's as a poor film maker who was on the lookout for a wide angle lens for my 35mm Arriflex...he found one in his desk that was serviceable and sold it for less than average rental weekly rate Micheal, have fun and make sure your prints are properly spliced and in frame....from a 3D freak  |  IP: Logged Tim Turner Film Handler Posts: 87 From: Chula Vista, CA, USA Registered: Jan 2002 posted 08-16-2003 09:52 AM                     And you'll also have a chance to meet me! I'll be running the morning and afternoon shows. [ 08-16-2003, 08:05 PM: Message edited by: Tim Turner ]  |  IP: Logged John Spooner Expert Film Handler Posts: 186 From: South Australia, Australia Registered: Jan 2003 posted 08-16-2003 02:16 PM                     Dear Tim. In regards the 3D screenings you will be operating at. Would you let me know what types of optical systems are being used. I operated at most of the 3D screenings in Adelaide when they were held . Used both types of flat Stereovision optics , being the combined prime lens and polarizer system in one common barrel, and the secondary separate polarizer system consisting of 2 adjustable prisms in a metal box which mounted on the prime backing lens. These were for top/bottom format. Also we showed "House of Wax" many times (side/side) which was a flimsy plastic attachment which mounted on the existing Scope lens, the resultant image appearing in 1:33 ratio. With the top/bottom type , be very careful not to "tear" the image, the images must be exactly level, there can be no vertical misalignment as the eye is very sensitive to such , and eyestrain will result. However the horizontal line up is not so critical, you can move the 2 images outwards and we found this actually improved the 3D effect. As a matter of interest, "H O Wax" uses a standard Scope aperture plate, but top/bottom uses a much larger plate. If the scope plate is used there will be image cut off and dark top and bottom. Finally as you would know as a professional, splicing is critical. If 2 holes out, reverse 3D occurs, if this happens rerack down or up 2 holes and image will correct. The frameline should be marked with a small diamond or will be thicker. Best regards. John Spooner. South Australia.  |  IP: Logged Tim Turner Film Handler Posts: 87 From: Chula Vista, CA, USA Registered: Jan 2002 posted 08-16-2003 08:08 PM                     Ok, right now I know very little about whats going to be used. Perhaps Michael Schaffer would have more information at this point. But I'll be sure to ask lots of questions.  |  IP: Logged Michael Schaffer "Where is the Boardwalk Hotel?" Posts: 4143 From: Boston, MA Registered: Apr 2002 posted 08-17-2003 02:23 AM                        We will be using the separate polarizer box. We will hang the silver screen and do the alignment some time next week. John - thanks for the splicing tips. Our staff at the location will have no problem at all preparing the prints, as they usually prepare all our prints very carefully and professionally.  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 08-17-2003 11:29 AM                     Many of the overunder 3d prints have a wedge shaped mark between the perf everyso many frames to mark the actual frame line It is important to maintain the correct left eye right eye orientation by frameing correctly. Also it is very important ot have a very flat light field as well and also about 3times the ight level needed for standard presentations due to the light loss of the smaller frame size and the 2 sets of polarizers  |  IP: Logged Michael Schaffer "Where is the Boardwalk Hotel?" Posts: 4143 From: Boston, MA Registered: Apr 2002 posted 08-18-2003 10:59 PM                        Bump!!!  |  IP: Logged Michael Schaffer "Where is the Boardwalk Hotel?" Posts: 4143 From: Boston, MA Registered: Apr 2002 posted 08-23-2003 06:45 PM                        Due to unforeseen organisational problems, we decided to push the festival back into mid-October. Details will follow.  |  IP: Logged Mike Olpin Chop Chop! Posts: 1852 From: Dallas, TX Registered: Jan 2002 posted 08-25-2003 07:36 PM                      |  IP: Logged Mike Olpin Chop Chop! Posts: 1852 From: Dallas, TX Registered: Jan 2002 posted 10-17-2003 08:19 PM                     It's on! Just saw "House of Wax" and met Tim. Details on the festival are here !  |  IP: Logged Manny Knowles "What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???" Posts: 4247 From: Bloomington, IN, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 10-18-2003 03:56 PM                     John from Australia wrote: quote: The frameline should be marked with a small diamond or will be thicker. But I recall reading in a StereoVision document back in the 80s that the THIN LINE was actually the frameline and the THICK LINE was the left/right separator. No?  |  IP: Logged Michael Schaffer "Where is the Boardwalk Hotel?" Posts: 4143 From: Boston, MA Registered: Apr 2002 posted 10-18-2003 04:07 PM                        You are right, Manny. None of the prints I have seen so far had any frameline markings at all. But generally it is not difficult to see the "septum" since it is usually a little more diffuse and also thicker than the actual frameline which is usually more clearly printed.  |  IP: Logged Jon Miller Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 973 From: San Diego, CA, USA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 10-18-2003 08:05 PM                     Caught "Space Hunter" today...it's as campy as science fiction can get (but I'm no SF expert) and Molly Ringwald as a petulant teenager out of her element on an uncharted planet was a hoot. Thanks to Tim and theatre GM Jess Ochoa for a booth tour afterward, and a big to Michael for pulling it all off in spite of the challenges. One thing though...some of the 3-D effects worked quite well, while others--in particular the hokey, fan-shaped movie title and "The End" tag--just turned to mush that my eyes just couldn't fuse together. Is this evidence of the limitations of the over-under process, or is it just my eyesight going south?  |  IP: Logged

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