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Author Topic: other people's i.d. frames Philip Wittlief Film Handler Posts: 57 From: Chicago, IL Registered: May 2003 posted 08-08-2003 06:21 PM                        I work at an art house and get all used prints. Often there are multiple i.d. frames left on the leader, but they've been left by different people as the film has passed through many hands. What I'm saying is that I've found up to 4 or 5 i.d frames attached to the head that each have an individual splice holding one frame on. Has anyone else run into this. What do you do, do you leave what's there with the mess of a couple different theaters splices in a row or do you cut out the frames leaving just the last i.d. frame on the head and forget about the missing frames? phil  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 08-08-2003 06:23 PM                     Leave the one ID frame that is attached to the head and throw all of the others away! That becomes a haven for a bad wind onto the shipping reel that could cause further damage, plus if a changeover theater ever ran that through the projector the results would look godawful. "Answers within 3 minutes, guaranteed!"  |  IP: Logged Greg Routenburg Expert Film Handler Posts: 178 From: Toronto, ON, Canada Registered: May 2003 posted 08-08-2003 10:24 PM                     I received a copy of Star Trek VI for a private screening that had much the same problem. That was aggrivating but there was something else even more troubling. Anyone familiar with the movie will remember the little autograph session just before the credits. A number of projectionists had cut single frames out of film for each autograph. It looked awful on screen.  |  IP: Logged Frank Angel Film God Posts: 5305 From: Brooklyn NY USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 08-09-2003 04:07 AM                        There may be a law about not being able to assinate leaders of other countries, but it doesn't say anything about not assinating the lazy SOBs who do these hatched jobs, does it? Frank  |  IP: Logged John Anastasio Master Film Handler Posts: 325 From: Trenton, NJ, USA Registered: Sep 2000 posted 08-09-2003 09:42 AM                        There are laws against petty theft, but unfortunately none to protect us from someone who's just a dumb  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 08-11-2003 10:19 PM                        As I opined in another thread, anyone that deliberately takes "souvenir" frames from a film should be banned from projection.  |  IP: Logged Barry Floyd Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1079 From: Lebanon, Tennessee, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 08-12-2003 09:46 AM                        quote: anyone that deliberately takes "souvenir" frames from a film should be banned from projection When I bought the contents of the booth of an old drive-in theatre in east Tennessee several years ago, I found buried in a desk drawer, a large manilla envelope "stuffed" with 3" - 4" film strips that were cut from the feature films. Upon closer examination of the contents of the frames... the projectionist had clipped out the "Good Stuff" for his own private collection. You could tell by the hair styles that most of this stuff was probably from the mid-70's. I only looked at the hair styles... honest!  |  IP: Logged Mitchell Cope Master Film Handler Posts: 256 From: Overland Park, KS, United States Registered: Jun 99 posted 08-12-2003 12:22 PM                     Barry, that may have been for self censorship. And then, maybe not. I remember in the late 60s that theaters in Dallas would likely cut nudity out because it may not have seemed appropriate for general audiences (even though it already had a R rating). Then there's those darn kisses in "Cinema Paradiso". I've been mad hearing about a projectionist stealing frames off a 70mm print of "Oklahoma!".  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 08-12-2003 04:06 PM                        If you must have a "souvenir", carefully take a photograph of the frame while winding through the film, but NEVER cut it out of the print.  |  IP: Logged

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