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Scott Norwood
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 - posted 07-22-2003 11:06 PM      Profile for Scott Norwood   Author's Homepage   Email Scott Norwood   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
This is from a trailer that I received last Thursday. I noticed the weird track, but didn't hear any sound quality issues on the booth monitor. This particular theatre has Simplex 5-Star soundheads with red LED reverse-scan readers.

So, is it a dye track? If not, what happened here? LAD Girl's inquiring mind wants to know. [Smile]

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Darryl Spicer
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I believe it will be more closer to the color of the strip going down the left side of the sprocket holes. probably just a little darker but not much.

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John Pytlak
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It looks like you may have a print with a cyan + magenta (= blue) track that was ACCIDENTLY not applicated. Likely it would play fine on a red LED reader, but will be very noisy on a white light reader, since there is no silver to modulate the infrared.

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Stephen Furley
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I don't like the gradation of density across the width of the track, unless it's an artifact of the scanning. looks like a bad track to me.

Have you tried it on a white light system? Maybe on those old Western bases.

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John Pytlak
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quote:
LAD Girl's inquiring mind wants to know.

I was in the studio when we shot the 800 feet of original color negative of "LAD Girl" in 1982, from which all the LAD Control Film for the last 20 years has been made. Looking at your clip, she actually DOES seem to be pondering the analog soundtrack. [Smile]

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Sam Hunter
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Is she single?

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John Anastasio
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Just remember, Sam...that picture was made 20 years ago! But then, who's picky. I have a print that dates from the 1970s somewhere in my 16mm collection of odd junk that has a magenta track . It doesn't play worth a darn, of course. Why the heck would they have made one back then? And on 16mm? [Confused]

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Thomas Procyk
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John: Did she move or blink during those 800 feet? Is there a chance one could build a "LAD Girl collection" of various different frames?

Hmmm
=TMP=

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John Pytlak
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I've lost track of the Kodak model who has probably been in more movies than any actress in history. She is probably a grandmother by now.

The current LAD control film is made from a digital file of one of the best (non-blinking) frames we could find in the original negative. When it was all duplicated photographically, it was a real movie with "blinking" frames (and maybe even a yawn or two [Wink] ). Today, every frame is the same.

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