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Brian Guckian
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I remember reading about Kodak's "Quickermittent" a year ago, that used a new starwheel profile to increase acceleration leading to substantial improvement in light efficiency.

Can it now be ordered as an option from most projector manufacturers? Using this, coupled with faster lenses, must make three-bladed shutters more viable.

It's always good to see improvements in film technology [Smile]

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Gordon McLeod
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No one has adopted which is too bad

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John Pytlak
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The Kodak "Quickermittent" is still available for licensing. Christopher DuMont led the Enhanced Theatrical Experience (ETE) team that developed and patented it, as well as the new, more efficient lamphouse with greatly improved uniformity. Kodak's Dave Kirkpatrick was the inventor of the "Quickermittent".

Addendum:

The Kodak paper "Design Improvements for Motion Picture Film Projectors" was published in the November 2001 SMPTE Journal (Volume 110, pages 785-791).

The Kodak patent for the "Quickermittent" is Patent No. 6,183,087 , issued on February 6, 2001. Enquiries for licensing opportunities are welcomed (Kodak is not currently in the business of making 35mm or 70mm film projectors or components).

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Brian Guckian
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Thanks for the info! It's a shame there's been no take-up but I guess these things take time.

John, I'll locate a copy of that Journal - thanks for the details.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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So, I wonder how much it is to liscense it..... Any ideas or info on this John P.?
Mark @ CLACO

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John Pytlak
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No, as that's usually negotiated. But I can certainly forward any requests to license the technology to the appropriate people at Kodak.

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Michael Schaffer
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I am not surprised no one has taken up the idea. If they would give us ways to optimize the light output, then we could buy smaller >>>less expensive xenons. But that is where they make the money.

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John Pytlak
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Of course, you could always use the extra light to IMPROVE quality (better uniformity, three-blade shutter, more depth of focus, etc.). [Smile]

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Joe Redifer
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John is right, and that's how I'd like to see it used. But I imagine that if any projectors offered the Quickermittent that it'd be known when the theater owner does the purchase. And he'll probably decide to purchase lower wattage lamphouses. Now retrofitting existing theaters would be an entirely different story.

Maybe it is the name "Quickermittent" that is turning manufacturers off. It sounds stupid. Of course here I am without a better sounding name so I guess I shouldn't speak. [Smile]

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Gee.... American manufacturers can BARELY still make usable stars and cams.... How on earth could we turn out any decent quickermittents......?
Mark

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Joe Redifer
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Maybe different Americans are building the silly-named "Quickermittent".

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John Pytlak
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If Kodak was still in the projector business (we made the fabled EASTMAN Model 25 and Model 30 professional 16mm projectors), we'd be tempted to tool up for making the "Quickermittent" parts. [Cool]

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Phil Hill
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Actually I like the name "Quickermittent". It has a catchy ring to it like "Fruit Loops" and "Obsolete".

OH, Ummmm... with apologies to John, to paraphrase another post... [evil]

---Only "die-hards" claim 70+ year-old film technology is preferable to today's hard-disk readers and video projection. If so, let's go back to vacuum cathode ray tubes while we're at it.---

It is pretty archaic to mechanically pull plastic with pictures on it in a start & stop fashion so why invest in a dying technology?

It's worked great for all them years, why f*ck with it?

OBTW: I'm a film guy…with video tendencies. [beer]

>>> Phil

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John Pytlak
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Dr. Phil wrote about film:

quote:
It's worked great for all them years, why f*ck with it?


Because it can be made even better at much less cost than the alternatives. [Smile]

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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"If so, let's go back to vacuum cathode ray tubes while we're at it.---"
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Actually the very highest resolution images are still made by high vacuum cathode ray tubes!! [beer]
Mark

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