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John Pytlak
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 - posted 03-14-2005 10:39 PM      Profile for John Pytlak   Author's Homepage   Email John Pytlak   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Where did you hear that "Robots" would have a cyan track? AFAIK, 20th Century Fox has not yet decided when they will convert.

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Bill Enos
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If the transition to cyan never takes place can we sue the bastards to recover the money wasted?

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John Pytlak
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The transition is taking place. But not as fast as it should have.

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Brad Allen
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Oops, sorry, didn't think of Reel ID. [Eek!] Thanks.

I had someone else ask me the question, and since I didn't have a print to look at, I had to forward the question. [Big Grin]

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Stephen Jones
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Received 4 Trls for Hitchhikers Guide To The Glaxy with Cyan Tracks,fist time I have seen it comercially only seen samples of it in the past.We are running them and the results seem ok cant tell of any difference.Running Kinoton FP50D's with Red Led readers.

Steve [thumbsup]

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Stephen Jones
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Recieved our 1st cyan feature yesterday from BVI, The Pacifier so things starting to happen here in Australia,Print was done by Atlab in Sydney I presume (perhaps Dominic can confirm this?
) so it will be a first rate print as SR.D allways has a error rate of 0-1 when printed by Atlab never had anything with high error rate from them.

cheers,

Stephen

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Dominic Case
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quote: Stephen Jones
The Pacifier so things starting to happen here in Australia,Print was done by Atlab in Sydney I presume (perhaps Dominic can confirm this?
) so it will be a first rate print

Yes I can confirm all of your points Stephen.

Things are starting to happen here in Australia at last.
The Pacifier will be the first title that we are printing in cyan - for Australia & NZ. Hitchhikers Guide will be the same when it comes out. No word from other distributors yet.

Previous BVI releases in Australia this year have all been used prints from pre-2005 US releases, so before the BVI switch to cyan.) But hopefully everyone got the flyer from BVI late last year ("Are you ready?")

And yes to your last point too - thanks [Smile]

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Peter Mork
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My first cyan track today. Nobody asked, but I'm in favor of this change if it means better quality control - I've seen enough badly-developed tracks that make odd thumping noises and don't need to see any more.

One advantage of red light readers that nobody mentioned, on this thread at least, is that you can do any splice blooping with a plain blue or black Sharpie pen - throw away that roll of special infrared-impermeable blooping tape. I'm not taking this on faith, I did a test.

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John Pytlak
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Yes, any ink that blocks red light can be used for blooping cyan tracks. With tungsten "white light" or IR LED, you need to use an ink that is opaque to infrared (e.g., uses carbon black pigments like India Ink).

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Steven J Hart
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The Pacifier arrived at my theater this week with Cyan Track. This is the first cyan print I've projected at the Roxy. I was told in November of 1997 when I purchased new projection equipment that I would be needing the red light reader soon. I never dreamed it would take seven and a half years for my extra investment to be necessary! Now its just a backup since I converted to DTS years ago.
Steve

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Mike Spaeth
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We have 5 CYAN prints sitting in my building right now ...

Hostage
The Pacifier
Cursed
The Ring Two (2 Prints)

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Dick Twentyman
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Mike,

Interesting that you have two prints of "The Ring 2" with cyan tracks. Our print is not cyan. Why would the studio print some with cyan track and some without. Seems a bit odd!

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John Pytlak
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quote:
Why would the studio print some with cyan track and some without. Seems a bit odd!
Distributors make prints at multiple labs around the world. And as mentioned before, a distributor may need some silver+dye prints for territories not fully converted to red readers yet --- perhaps those Australian prints will be used in some less-developed English-speaking countries after their run in Australia. We've already seen where a mix of cyan and silver+dye prints are released in the USA, with the anticipation that the silver+dye prints will be culled for release in overseas territories not yet ready for cyan dye prints.

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Mike Blakesley
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We are playing "The Pacifier" and "Heffalump" (for matinees) this weekend so I'm looking forward to seeing my first cyan print.

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Charlie Frisby
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Right now we have 10 prints in the building, and 7 are cyan. For the fist time in 3 weeks we got a new print that was not cyan.
Miss Congeniality 2 is purple, but hey i still buy a VHS every now and then.

I also have noticed that our media pads have very little cyan residue, in fact i still get more purple from off of the wheels.

My film has been cleaner more recently, and i don't miss purple snow in the projectors.

FRiSBY

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