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Author Topic: Horizontal Movement On Strong Millennium Paul Salley Expert Film Handler Posts: 105 From: Liberal, Kansas Registered: Jan 2001 posted 07-09-2003 04:36 PM                  One of my Strong Millennium projectors here has a slight vibration which is causing some horizontal movement on screen. I've adjusted tension on the film bands, checked the drive shaft and all the gears. Everything seems to be fine? I'm kinda stumped any ideas? Thanks  |  IP: Logged Tim Reed Better Projection Pays Posts: 5246 From: Northampton, PA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 07-09-2003 04:39 PM                       Is the lens turret secured?  |  IP: Logged Tim Turner Film Handler Posts: 87 From: Chula Vista, CA, USA Registered: Jan 2002 posted 07-09-2003 05:03 PM                     I've seen this happen before also. It doesn't seem to happen with all prints thoough. I've found that making the feed and oldback loops (or top and bottom loops, whatever they're called) smaller sometimes helps.  |  IP: Logged Hugh McCullough Expert Film Handler Posts: 147 From: Old Coulsdon, Surrey, UK Registered: Jan 2003 posted 07-09-2003 05:06 PM                        I had the same thing happen on a Westar. When you placed your hand on the motor you could feel it vibrating every three or four seconds. Never was able to find the answer, so installed a new motor. This cured the problem.  |  IP: Logged Paul Salley Expert Film Handler Posts: 105 From: Liberal, Kansas Registered: Jan 2001 posted 07-09-2003 10:13 PM                  The lens turret seems to be fine it locks into place with no movement or play. We have tried running diffrent size loops, but this doesn't seem to help either. I haven't checked the motor, but I will look into it. I do have a spare motor so maybe I'll give it a whirl. Any other ideas please let me know! Thanks  |  IP: Logged Daniel Burns Film Handler Posts: 52 From: dallas, TX, USA Registered: Jan 2003 posted 07-09-2003 10:25 PM                     when i worked at amc we had a problem with this. The engineer looked at it and just said "looks like its weaving", tried nothing to fix it. All of our bands were set at 4 or 5 just to make it look a little better on screen.  |  IP: Logged Michael Cunningham Expert Film Handler Posts: 186 From: Anchorage, AK Registered: Nov 1999 posted 07-10-2003 02:02 PM                     Hmm, how are your lateral guide rollers? Bent, nicked or warped? Do they turn freely and independantly of each other? Can the inboard roller be pushed further in and, when released, snap back out? - Mike  |  IP: Logged Darryl Spicer Film God Posts: 3250 From: Lexington, KY, USA Registered: Dec 2000 posted 07-10-2003 03:41 PM                    I have seen situations were the start celenoid on the motor, I think it's called that, stays on applying continuous start power to the motor. When this happens the motor vibrates everythin on that machine. Does the motor feel very hot to the touch after the projector stops. Does it do it in both flat and scope or just one of the lenses. Check the lens elements for loosness.  |  IP: Logged Paul Salley Expert Film Handler Posts: 105 From: Liberal, Kansas Registered: Jan 2001 posted 07-10-2003 04:22 PM                  Our lateral guide rollers seem to always lock up due to condensation, the spring area ends up with small amounts of rust. We do clean them regularly. They don't turn as freely as I want them too. I will check this out today. Also I'll check for the heated motor, And also I'll check on the lens senario. Thanks guys for all the tips!!!  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 07-14-2003 09:00 PM                     All of the above is a very good example of why there are OTHER projectors of superior build which your employer SHOULD ahve selected....that don't have any of these prolewms. This is all very typical with Simplex's with turretts. Mainly check for excessive vibrations and that the ball bearings securing the turrett to the frame are ok. Next would be the lens mounts with in the turretts. Either your print is bad, or its somethng on the turrett thats out of adjustment or work out. Mark  |  IP: Logged System Notices Forum Watchdog / Soup Nazi Posts: 215 Registered: Apr 2004 posted 02-04-2009 03:53 PM                 It has been 2031 days since the last post.  |  IP: Logged Eric Robinson Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 538 From: Santa Rosa, CA Registered: Jan 2005 posted 02-04-2009 03:53 PM                     quote: Paul Salley One of my Strong Millennium projectors here has a slight vibration which is causing some horizontal movement on screen. I have exactly the same problem. quote: Darryl Spicer I have seen situations were the start celenoid on the motor, I think it's called that, stays on applying continuous start power to the motor. When this happens the motor vibrates everythin on that machine. Does the motor feel very hot to the touch after the projector stops. The motor is running slightly hotter that the other Millenniums Any way to troubleshoot the possible motor start solenoid? It sounds odd to me that there would be a solenoid, is it perhaps a motor start capacitor? All parts are tight. Motor mounting block, motor mounts, motor plate, turret, lens. New belts installed, oil changed. Trap bands perfect set to tension "4". Gate and trap are perfect. Lateral guide rollers inner and outer are perfect.  |  IP: Logged Ron Funderburg Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 814 From: Chickasha, Oklahoma, USA Registered: Nov 2007 posted 02-04-2009 04:07 PM                        quote: Mark Gulbrandsen All of the above is a very good example of why there are OTHER projectors of superior build which your employer SHOULD ahve selected....that don't have any of these prolewms. But Mark all projectors have some kind of problem associated with them. If they didn't you would have been out of work a long time ago! It is just so easy to blame a projector you don't like as having these kinds of problems! It is also easy to blame the owner for being the equipment but what is the point in that? We work with the equipment we have! I personally like the old XL Simplex projector over all other brands, and don't really mind the ticks, quirks and flaws as I keep them well maintained and this seems to lessen problems at least for me.  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 02-04-2009 08:42 PM                     Woo..let's dig up a 4 year old dead end thread, breathe life into it and kick it around some more... ................................................................ FYI - I got 8 Mil units that runs pretty steady - no problems with them outside of main seal replacements on a couple of them. ..but TONS better than those POS PR-1060's. Don't know anything about the Apogee, yet don't want to know about them either.. -Monte  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 02-04-2009 10:29 PM                     quote: Don't know anything about the Apogee, You mean the Crapogee! Ron, I have far less trouble with Christie P-35GP's then I do any other machine. The DP-70 is the next most reliable for me. Anyway Paul... make sure that your lateral guide roller in the trap is not frozen open.... Mark  |  IP: Logged

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