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Author Topic: New ETS Can locks Paul Konen Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 981 From: Frisco, TX. (North of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 07-08-2003 09:43 AM                     You know those tabs they put on electric meters. Well, they used them on our cans of T3. They require pliers or tin snips in order to cut through the metal ring. Here's a picture: Paul  |  IP: Logged Michael Gonzalez Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 790 From: Grand Island , NE USA Registered: Sep 2000 posted 07-08-2003 10:28 AM                     My Booth person seemed to have problems opening these things with the wire cutters. I just went up grabbed the blue part and twisted it until the wire broke. Pretty easy.  |  IP: Logged Aaron Sisemore Flaming Ribs beat Reeses Peanut Butter Cups any day! Posts: 3061 From: Rockwall TX USA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 07-08-2003 10:40 AM                     I had handled a print of 'Star Trek II: The Wrath Of Khan' in 1982 that had the cans sealed with one of the old lead-and-wire seals... And a print of 'A Bug's Life' for a special advance screening that had PADLOCKS on the cans. Disney tech Kent Peterson had the only set of keys. Aaron  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 07-08-2003 10:46 AM                        How well publicized was the use of these "secured" tabs? Unless a theatre knew the cases were SUPPOSED to arrive with the tabs intact, a would-be pirate could have "borrowed" the print for copying, and just sent it on to the theatre without the tabs. Paul: How are they protecting the digital cinema version of T3? How was it delivered to your theatre? (Satellite or DVDs?) Is an decryption key system being used yet?: http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/digital/cineOpSys.shtml http://www.kodak.com/country/US/en/motion/digital/bouchardInterviewP.shtml http://www.kodak.com/US/en/corp/researchDevelopment/productFeatures/cinema.shtml  |  IP: Logged Peter Kerchinsky Master Film Handler Posts: 326 From: Seattle, WA, USA Registered: Jan 2002 posted 07-08-2003 01:29 PM                     This was a real brilliant move! Our print of T3 had the "secured tabs" on each of the cans EXCEPT one of them was on the inside of the key. Why that can didn't open and spew out the reels is beyond me.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 07-08-2003 01:41 PM                     You're right, wire cutters DON'T work! I had to fight to get mine off. After the first can, I was seriously eyeing the bolt cutters. I figure if the front of the can won't open because of a stupid security clasp, I'll cut the back latches open. I don't have time to play jack-around with these stupid security measures. John, I think it's cute how you insinuate that pirates don't have access to prints before the depot ships them out. Then again why does Sony feel the need to put a fake movie title on every print on one side of the can, then put the REAL title on the other? Yeah, that's gonna fool someone. And wasn't there an Arnold movie released by Warner Brothers called "Collateral Damage"? What a great idea to name a new Arnold/Warner movie "Collateral Damage". I'm going to laugh if down the road someone opens up a set of cans for a repertory show and the wrong film is in there.  |  IP: Logged Paul Konen Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 981 From: Frisco, TX. (North of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 07-08-2003 01:45 PM                     John, all content is delivered on hard drives that plug into the AMS system. The content is generally encrypted in which the TDC (Technicolor Digital Cinema) tech installs the decryption keys. The content, feature and all 6 channels, have a unique DES3 key that is tied to the decoder so you can't take the content from one machine to another without a new set of keys.  |  IP: Logged Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 07-08-2003 01:50 PM                        All of my prints had "Collateral Damage (2003)" on them. Not to be mistaken with "Collateral Damage (2002)". BTW, we're still running Finding Nemo on our TI/CDS DLP... and since our two prints of T3 are selling out in auditoriums similar in size to the DLP auditorium (~350 seats), it wouldn't have made a difference if we had chosen to run T3 in digital.  |  IP: Logged Paul G. Thompson The Weenie Man Posts: 4718 From: Mount Vernon WA USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 07-08-2003 02:12 PM                     Use your Bus Bar shunt, Stick it in, and give it a couple of twists and it should pop.  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 07-08-2003 03:49 PM                        quote: John, I think it's cute how you insinuate that pirates don't have access to prints before the depot ships them out. I AM saying that the print could be "borrowed" BEFORE it gets to the theatre.  |  IP: Logged Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 07-08-2003 03:52 PM                        I believe Brad was just pointing out that the print could be "borrowed" before the "security tag" even gets attatched to the can.  |  IP: Logged Bill Carter Expert Film Handler Posts: 162 From: Minneapolis, Minnesota Registered: Sep 1999 posted 07-08-2003 04:01 PM                     Funny, the guys at my local ETS depot were complaining and laughing about having to put those tags on all the T3 prints. I actually had to wait while they found one to put on my print before I could take it out the door.  |  IP: Logged Carl Martin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1424 From: Oakland, CA, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 07-08-2003 04:05 PM                        am i missing something? that whole tag looks narrow enough to fit through the slot in the latch. is it too thick? carl  |  IP: Logged Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 07-08-2003 04:09 PM                        Since the regular tab just fits through the slot, the 'security' tab won't fit through since it sits against the regular tab (the wire isn't long enough to go through after the regular tab).  |  IP: Logged Bill Enos Film God Posts: 2081 From: Richmond, Virginia, USA Registered: Apr 2000 posted 07-08-2003 05:30 PM                     The hand full of pirated videos I've seen were well before theatres would have gotten prints, indicating the copying was done at the distribution level or before.  |  IP: Logged

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