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Brad Miller
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Was Bruce Almighty the first of a change in printing labs for Universal, or just a one time thing (perhaps due to Deluxe not being able to fill the order)? The two prints of Bruce Almighty I saw looked absolutely fantastic! The image was rock steady, which is amazing for a flat movie ran on high speed printers. The "white" scenes were pure clear footage and there wasn't a blemish on the entire thing. Excellent color, contrast and sharpness. I would be thrilled to see this kind of quality again. Anyone else noticed the high quality of these prints? Anyone have any info on Universal possibly switching labs? Universal normally puts out some of the worst prints between the major Hollywood studios.

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Daryl C. W. O'Shea
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My prints looked great too.

If I'm not mistaken, I'm currently running more Technicolor prints than Deluxe prints. Usually it's Deluxe by at least 2 to 1.

They even attatched the stickers (tops) on the heads and tails soundtrack up... wow eh?

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Darryl Spicer
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my prints looked pretty good except for one of the reels had some signs that the transfer negative in use was showing signs of wearing out.

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Aaron Sisemore
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The print I saw on Friday had tons of black and purple splotches a la Deluxe throughout R5 and R6 [Frown] and it was a Tech Hollywood print.

-Aaron

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Ken Layton
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I always thought Universal had a more-or-less permanent contract with Technicolor since around 1940.

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Tim Reed
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I'm not surprised. Screen Attractions is using Technicolor/CFI for all prints of the "Showbiz Clock", and for reprints of current library titles.

I just got answer prints from them on Saturday and they are indeed beautiful! The colorists did a particularly good job. Likewise, each department has been very good about keeping in touch and making sure these jobs are done right. I'm well pleased.

They are 'the greatest name in color'!
Showbiz Clock

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Adam Martin
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The print of Bruce Almighty that I saw last night had such a bizarre image darkening during the diner scene, that I thought the lamp had lost a seal. It lasted for maybe three minutes and then everything was fine again. Someone must have turned on a light in the darkroom. Oddly, though, it was accompanied by a DTS dropout at the same time.

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Aaron Sisemore
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quote:
I always thought Universal had a more-or-less permanent contract with Technicolor since around 1940.
Universal changed its printing lab to DeLuxe in the late 80's.

-Aaron

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Claude S. Ayakawa
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It was not released by Universal but "DOWN WITH LOVE" from Fox was one of the most horrid print I saw. It was suppose to recreate the look of a early sixties film but failed because of the lousy print quality. In my opinion, I had no problems with Universal's print quality in recent years. They looked great in my opinion such as the two "MUMMY" pictures, "JURASSIC PARK 1-II- III" and many other films. The best print quality pictures I have enjoyed from Universal were in IB Technicolor in the forties and fifties were all breathtaking!

-Claude

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John T. Hendrickson, Jr
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Our two prints of Bruce Almighty are great. I've noticed an increase in the number of Technicolor prints we have received in the last couple of months. It's a breath of fresh air, compaired to the quality of the Delux prints we have been receiving. Let's hope the trend continues. [thumbsup]

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John Pytlak
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quote:
...bizarre image darkening during the diner scene, that I thought the lamp had lost a seal. It lasted for maybe three minutes and then everything was fine again. Someone must have turned on a light in the darkroom. Oddly, though, it was accompanied by a DTS dropout at the same time.

A blue/cyan colored fogging across the entire printed image (may also affect the reading of the soundtracks) is usually due to excessive exposure to the amber-colored "safelights" used in lab darkrooms when printing and processing color prints:

http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/support/illumination/page01.blind

http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/support/technical/illumination.shtml

If unprocessed print film is accidently exposed to "white lights" like tungsten, fluorescent or daylight, the fogging is usually yellow or brown in color, because print film's blue-sensitive (yellow dye) layer is much more sensitive to light than the red or green sensitive layers.

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Les Brock
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Here in Europe Universal has recently moved it's processing from Deluxe to Technicolor.

I would assume that the same deal applies in the US and your Universal movies will in future be printed by Technicolor.

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Tim Reed
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For the record... I just received first-trials off of dupe negatives today. They are virtually indistinguishable from prints made off our original negative!

This was a pleasant surprise; I expected to at least see SOME increase in grain.

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John Pytlak
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I just received first-trials off of dupe negatives today. They are virtually indistinguishable from prints made off our original negative!

This was a pleasant surprise; I expected to at least see SOME increase in grain.

Not if they used Kodak VISION Color Intermediate Film:
[Smile]

http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/products/lab/5242.shtml

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Tim Reed
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That's absolutely right, John. It costs a bit more, but we've spared no expense on this production.

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