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Author Topic: Belden 8451...where to buy cheap? Greg Mueller Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1687 From: Port Gamble, WA Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-24-2003 06:16 PM                        Anybody got a good source for Belden 8451. I'm moving some stuff around in the rack and of course now my hook up wires won't reach. I don't want to buy 100s of feet for this little job, but I wouldn't mind buying 100 feet. Anyone?  |  IP: Logged John Anastasio Master Film Handler Posts: 325 From: Trenton, NJ, USA Registered: Sep 2000 posted 05-24-2003 06:38 PM                        Markertek sells it, Greg, and I think you can get shorter lengths. Markertek  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 05-24-2003 08:53 PM                     Now's the best time to plan ahead since you are re-doing things. I like to leave an extra 10-20 feet of speaker wire neatly coiled at the bottom of the sound rack in the event things are ever changed to prevent a splice in the line. For optical wires, I'll coil up an extra 10 feet in a box on the wall between the projector and sound rack. Whenever the next upgrading project comes along, it sure does make things nice.  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-25-2003 12:40 AM                     Actually there is far better wire out there than plain ole Belden 8451....especially for using in screening room situations. My home system is all wired with Mogami wire...which is not as expensive as one might think. My personal choice is GEPCO Internationsl's equivelent of Belden 8451. Its a much nicer wire to work with, and is available in a rainbow of colors. Makles it easy to identify what wire is what in a rack as you can develope your owhn color coding. www.gepco.com They will sell any length you want. They also stock the entire Neutrick line as well as many other nifty accessories. Their client list is like a who's who in the audio and broadcast industry. Their multi conductor snakes are fantastic!! All of theor cable is designed in house and manufactured in their own plants....its not bought from another wire maker!! Mark @ CLACO  |  IP: Logged Ken Layton Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1452 From: Olympia, Wash. USA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 05-25-2003 12:56 AM                     Greg: Electronic Resourcing here in Olympia is a Belden distributor and they sell wire by the foot. Call 360-943-1071 and talk to either Ron or Steve. Tell them I sent you.  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 05-25-2003 12:59 AM                     In the Belden line (my favorite wire company) I'd use 9451...it has the same electrical properties as 8451 but the sheild is bonded to the jacket so stripping is clean and easy. 9451 is also available in all 10 of the primary colors. If want it in short lengths...give me a call we stock it. As to keeping a coil of cable...watch out, it is just begging to pick up stray noise. There are ways to "hide" service loops without opening oneself up to noise. And speaking of noise...if you really want it quiet...invest in "star-quad" cable...available from Belden, Canarie and others. Steve  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-25-2003 09:42 AM                     I use 9451 for almost all my racks I believe Newark also sells it It is available in 100' spools and 500' and 1000' boxes  |  IP: Logged Rick Long Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 759 From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Registered: Nov 1999 posted 05-25-2003 02:15 PM                     For high-noise enviroments, try Belden 9452.  |  IP: Logged System Notices Forum Watchdog / Soup Nazi Posts: 215 Registered: Apr 2004 posted 10-25-2004 05:14 AM                 It has been 518 days since the last post.  |  IP: Logged Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 10-25-2004 05:14 AM                        quote: Steve Guttag 9451 is also available in all 10 of the primary colors. Are all of the colours just as glossy? As in just as easy to pull through a few hundred feet of conduit? I like colours, and for the same price, what the heck as long as it's as easy to pull. I love the bonded jacket on 9451 and 9452 but have only used these in black cable before. I remember some colours of 1266A aren't as glossy as others.  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 10-25-2004 12:02 PM                     The 9451 colours are just as easy to pull I believe that 9452 is only available in black  |  IP: Logged Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 10-25-2004 05:54 PM                        Thanks Gordon. Yes, 9452 only comes in black.  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 10-31-2004 08:37 PM                     You can also get "snake" cable that has 24awg versions of 9451 with an overall shield. I've never had any problems pulling 9451...the jacket is slightly thicker than 8451 so you will have more fill in the same pipe. Still there is much less work involved with 9451 which makes it a particularly good value. Steve  |  IP: Logged System Notices Forum Watchdog / Soup Nazi Posts: 215 Registered: Apr 2004 posted 03-13-2008 02:20 PM                 It has been 1228 days since the last post.  |  IP: Logged Tim Reed Better Projection Pays Posts: 5246 From: Northampton, PA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 03-13-2008 02:20 PM                       Is there a two-pair equivalent to the 9451 (shield bonded to jacket version of 8723)?  |  IP: Logged

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