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Author Topic: Attached Trailers Don Anderson Master Film Handler Posts: 312 From: West Bend, WI, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 04-27-2003 10:53 PM                     Why is it that the studios can't place a note inside the shipping containers stating which trailers are attached to their prints???? Sometimes there is a printout mentioning what is attached, but most of the time its missing. I know that the chance of adding a trailer of the same title is one in a million, but I haven't been having good luck. This is twice this month that the trailer that I attached was the same as what the studio had placed on their print. Luckily, I preview the print the night before it is to play. Thank goodness fellow forum members are kind enough to post it here on the forum. Bravo, now if only the studios could do the same.  |  IP: Logged Thomas Procyk Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1842 From: Royal Palm Beach, FL, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 04-27-2003 11:35 PM                     Maybe you should pull the attatched trailer off (if you place a Feature Presentation snipe between your trailers and the movie) before you build up the rest of the trailer head. =TMP=  |  IP: Logged Aaron Sisemore Flaming Ribs beat Reeses Peanut Butter Cups any day! Posts: 3061 From: Rockwall TX USA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 04-28-2003 01:18 AM                     Most of the majors do enclose a note stating what is attached to the print. On prints struck at Deluxe, the leader of reel 1 almost always mentions the attached trailer (the exception to this rule is if the trailer is spliced in as opposed to printed along with the feature). Look in the leader frames before the countdown. -Aaron  |  IP: Logged Mark Maxwell Film Handler Posts: 55 From: Tyler, TX, USA Registered: Jul 2002 posted 04-28-2003 01:29 AM                     The chances aren't a million to one so you are not unlucky in that aspect. If you are like I was, you are limitted to how many trailors you have available, And didn't know what was attached. That used to happen to me. If you build that first reel up on an empty reel towards the end of the attached trailor and use a magnifying glass to read the name of the movie, it will help. More often than not, you are going to feel like you waysted your' time, but when you find out the attached trailor is one you almost put on, the time is definately worth it.  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 04-28-2003 11:31 AM                        You guys don't remove the attached trailers? I always remove them and make up the trailer reel before making up the feature. How do you deal with bad splices made at the film depot with spliced-on attached trailers? I think I've only once gotten a used print that had the "attached" trailer still attached (I removed it). I love those TES labels that they put on the cans to indicate which trailers are supposed to be attached. Most of the time, they're just plain wrong (from an older film which was shipped in those cans, usually) or otherwise useless (e.g. "the MULTIPLE TRAILERS trailer has been attached to this print").  |  IP: Logged Nicholas Roznovsky Expert Film Handler Posts: 156 From: College Station, TX, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 04-28-2003 12:50 PM                        I once had a print that came with a notice telling me: "Projectionist: Please note that 20TH CENTURY FOX has been attached to this print. Do not remove or otherwise edit this attached trailer." Imagine my disappointment when the studio was nowhere to be found, just a lame trailer for one of their films.  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 04-28-2003 12:58 PM                        quote: Please note that 20TH CENTURY FOX has been attached to this print. If they are so "attached" to the print, then why did they rent it out?  |  IP: Logged Elvis Navas Film Handler Posts: 13 From: Caracas, Venezuela Registered: Apr 2003 posted 04-28-2003 01:15 PM                     Don, you have an easy work because you receive the trailers attached to the print, we have to make up the trailers one by one each week plus make up the print. If the schedule programer become nut we have to make the trailers up again and again until three times per week.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 04-28-2003 01:55 PM                        Since virtually every theatre removes the attached trailers for sound logos and whatnot, why don't they just enclose them instead of bothering with attaching?  |  IP: Logged Dustin Mitchell Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1865 From: Mondovi, WI, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 04-28-2003 03:01 PM                     By attaching them they can claim they are part of the movie and thus removing them would be a copyright violation. Or so I've been led to believe. Not saying there is any legal weight to that claim, just that that could be their logic.  |  IP: Logged John Hawkinson Film God Posts: 2273 From: Cambridge, MA, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 04-28-2003 04:39 PM                     Mike asks, "Since virtually every theatre removes the attached trailers for sound logos and whatnot, why don't they just enclose them instead of bothering with attaching?" I don't think it's anything like "virtually every theatre" that removes the attached trailers and does not put them back on. I think the logic is pretty straightforward. Studios have found that attached trailers are more likely to be played by theatres than enclosed trailers. Especially if there are 5 enclosed trailers and 1 attached trailer, the 1 attached trailer is much more likely to be played than any single one of the enclosed trailers. --jhawk  |  IP: Logged William T. Parr Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 823 From: Cedar Park, TX Registered: Nov 2000 posted 04-28-2003 09:13 PM                     You know I tried to make that same point to the Operations Manager that is overmy theatre who also happens to be the Film Buyer for the circuit. He's stance is that the Studios strictly prohibit it and that N.A.T.O is totally against it. His idea of a trailer pack complete with sound snipe is this. 1) Sound Format trailer 2) Any two previews that did not come in the can 3) Attached preview uncut from the film 4) Then the feature itself. All I can say it what a Jack Ass  |  IP: Logged Mark J. Marshall Film God Posts: 3188 From: New Castle, DE, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 04-28-2003 11:04 PM                    All the major chains I've ever been to all put a Feature Presentation snipe directly in front of the feature. Everyone knows this, so why does this practice continue? You'd think either a) the studios would yell at the theaters and make them stop doing that or b) they'd realize that people just cut the trailers off anyway and stop putting them on. I wonder how many prints come back to them without the attached trailer.  |  IP: Logged Jack Ondracek Film God Posts: 2348 From: Port Orchard, WA, USA Registered: Oct 2002 posted 04-29-2003 12:57 AM                        quote: from Mark M.: I wonder how many prints come back to them without the attached trailer. Having both an indoor house and a drive-in, I can tell you that it's extremely rare for me to find a trailer re-attached to a print. More likely, there are no trailers to be found at all. This is even more interesting when a print will arrive at my indoor house in 3 cans... one of which is full of trailers... but the same title (2 weeks old) will arrive at my drive-in as a normal 2-can shipment, sans trailers. It's almost funny, were it not so tragic, to find an ID frame on the leader of reel 1 "This preview has been rated for all audiences..." etc, etc, It does tend to make one understand the frustration that subsequent or sub-run houses are experiencing, not being able to secure a reliable source of trailers, when the first-run houses are brimming to the gills with the darn things... even more so when they get multiple prints (and trailer shipments).  |  IP: Logged Aaron Garman Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1470 From: Toledo, OH USA Registered: Mar 2003 posted 04-29-2003 02:06 AM                     Speaking of attached trailers, what is an easy way to determine where they end? I'm still learning booth, and I'm trying to find an easy way to locate where the attached trailers end so I can correctly place a sound snipe. So far, I have not had a bad splice, but I never know for sure. It seems that the spot to make the cut differs from print to print. I remember on Kangaroo Jack (Warner) there was a blue line, so I cut on that and everything was fine. Can anyone help me out on this one? Again, this is basically in regard to placing our sound snipes. Thanks. AJG  |  IP: Logged

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