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Thomas Hauerslev
Master Film Handler

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From: Copenhagen, Denmark
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 - posted 02-21-2003 11:19 PM      Profile for Thomas Hauerslev   Author's Homepage   Email Thomas Hauerslev   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I'm curious to know how many of FT´s members who requested the new Todd-AO masks for the DP70.

The photographic mattes were provided free to anyone who asked for them in return for a short written evaluation - good or bad - of their performance. So please remember to send Dan Leimeter your evaluation of the slits.

Please send the evaluation to:

Todd-AO Studios
Att: Dan Leimeter
900 North Seward St.
Hollywood
CA
USA

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Brad Miller
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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
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 - posted 02-22-2003 01:41 AM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
That's an excellent and desperately needed addition to the AAII. I didn't even know that was available. Still, can that exciter put out enough light through that slit to reach Dolby level?

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Steve Kraus
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 - posted 02-22-2003 10:25 AM      Profile for Steve Kraus     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
No, you have to install a Gemini bulb as an exciter!

Just kidding! [Big Grin]

I know of the new masks but haven't seen or heard one used. But I think it's wonderful that people at places like Todd-AO no less continue to advance this great machine.

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Gordon McLeod
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I used them with some jax lights with them with no probs

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Christopher Seo
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 - posted 02-22-2003 04:12 PM      Profile for Christopher Seo   Email Christopher Seo   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hmm... this modification seems simple enough, and so much better, that I wonder why they didn't use it in the first place?

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Greg Mueller
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 - posted 02-22-2003 04:45 PM      Profile for Greg Mueller   Author's Homepage   Email Greg Mueller   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I use one. It works as advertised. The problem I had was getting enough light to get to Dolby level. It turned out that the light pipe/condenser lens train was goofed up and after replacing that, it was clear sailing. Very nice boost on the high end

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Gordon McLeod
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It wasn't used in the first place as the then academy curve didn't want extended high end. That was also why the Simplex and RCA slits were in some cases 1.5mil wide

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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 - posted 02-25-2003 07:10 PM      Profile for Mark Gulbrandsen   Email Mark Gulbrandsen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Actually to get the best possible performance fomr the DP-70 optical sound reproducer you have to throw out all the stuff thats there now and go to new style LED reverse scan. There are several options for reverse scan on the DP-70 that are available including one new option that may appear at this years Showest. In alot of cases the old light pipe and optics does not allow enough light through for the narrow slit. Sometimes you end up running the preamp gain way high and can barely make it. The JAX light is another option and it now has a fully balanced pre-preamp for much lower hum and noise. Unfortunately though you are still stuck with the old optics here as well, but a fibre optics new light pipe is provided with the US JAX Light.

We recently rebuilt a batch of DP-70's in the CLACO shop for a project and we were told by Todd-AO that no more slits were available. Donno if they made another batch recently or not, but we had a full sheet of them reproduced by a local graphic arts person if anyone needs them.

Mark @ CLACO

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Gordon McLeod
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Mark said"Actually to get the best possible performance fomr the DP-70 optical sound reproducer you have to throw out all the stuff thats there now and go to reverse scan"
The DP 70 was always reverse scan [Big Grin]

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Thats not what it says.....show me where it says that......
You've been stirring up way too many Martinis tonight!!
Mark

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Gordon McLeod
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Mark that is cheationg you edited your post after mine [fu]

I just happened to have cut and pasted your post [Big Grin] and verified it against the cached page
since this is visible light I gues your were caught "RED" handed [Smile]

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Ahhh Gord, You're just too Smart for me...
Mark

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