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Author Topic: DTS problems in Gods & Generals John Carpenter Film Handler Posts: 96 From: Fort Walton Beach, FL, USA Registered: Nov 2002 posted 02-21-2003 12:54 AM                     We have 3 prints of Gods & Generals - 2 of which are playing in DTS houses. On BOTH of the DTS prints we had identical problems with reels 2 & 8 - the DTS keeps falling out. Basically it looks like both reel 2 & 8 have problems with the time code as the reader barely seems to read it. On the reels before and after it there are no problems. Considering both prints have the same problems - was there a problem with the master and would a replacment reel even help? Any other people have similar problems with G & G tonight? Thanks!  |  IP: Logged Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 02-21-2003 01:15 AM                        I haven't run it yet. By chance, are the print numbers close together? Moving to FHF.  |  IP: Logged John Carpenter Film Handler Posts: 96 From: Fort Walton Beach, FL, USA Registered: Nov 2002 posted 02-21-2003 01:23 AM                     Sorry - I guess it should have been in FHF... its been a really long day. Yes our prints are 3178-3180. One of them is in Dolby EX so I dont know if that one had the problems, but the 2 running in DTS did.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 02-21-2003 01:42 AM                     Flip prints tomorrow and see if the third copy plays ok in dts. The print I assembled tonight had tears every few sprocket holes and was quite noticeable during buildup. Looks like there was a burred sprocket in the printer. It affected every reel. Won't know if it will affect projection or sound tracking, but I've seen it before and it's never affected it.  |  IP: Logged Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 02-21-2003 01:42 AM                        I'd hazzard a guess then that they were all printed from the same negatives, and that either the printer became 'mis-aligned' for a bit or that all prints from that negative are bad. I'd see if you can get some replacement reels.  |  IP: Logged Claude S. Ayakawa Film God Posts: 2738 From: Waipahu, Hawaii, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 02-21-2003 01:55 AM                        John Carpenter said one of the prints of "GODS AND GENERALS" he received is in Dolby EX. According to the Dolby and another site I get my weekly information on sound formats, neither list this film as an EX release. If it is and the mix is a good one, it should make the experience of watching this much anticipated film even better. -Claude  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 02-21-2003 03:08 AM                     I stuck my head in on a dialogue scene and in an auditorium where dialogue normally sounds very good, this mix sounded like (It could've been a dubbed scene though.)  |  IP: Logged Thomas Procyk Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1842 From: Royal Palm Beach, FL, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 02-22-2003 06:20 PM                     A little off-topic, but I didn't want to add to the chatter in Feature Info: The intermission on our print had one frameline at the beginning and one at the end. In the middle, it had a tiny dot on the image area at each frame line. Unfortunately, there was a lab splice in my intermission as well. About 4 minutes into the silence, the audience is reminded that a movie is playing with a nice "crack!" (analog house) =TMP=  |  IP: Logged Kenny Thies Film Handler Posts: 42 From: Effingham, IL, USA Registered: Jan 2003 posted 02-23-2003 12:37 AM                     I've been having problems with Reels 9 & 10. The timecode LED flashes on and off and even drops out of digital. I've decided to just go to analog since there isn't a very high attendance here.  |  IP: Logged Brent Mahaney Film Handler Posts: 43 From: Bowling Green, Kentucky, USA Registered: Dec 2001 posted 02-23-2003 08:47 PM                    We have had similar problems with reel 8 bouncing in and out of digital on one of our prints. And to expand on Brad's comment, the mix isn't the best in the world. The high-end doesn't sound very crisp to me, but admittedly, I'm WAY too picky about sound.  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 02-23-2003 10:23 PM                     What lab printed the defective time code Maybe it is about time to start "outing" bad labs for time code problems getting a replacement reel after the fact impacts the opening weekend audience that is the bigest numbers for any release  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 02-23-2003 11:35 PM                     I can report the SRD track plays fine and dandy. Gordon, it was printed at the Tech lab overseas.  |  IP: Logged Karen Hultgren Master Film Handler Posts: 492 From: Agoura Hills, CA, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 02-24-2003 07:51 PM                        Be sure your readers are calibrated for 4 volts DC. Karen at DTS khultgren@dtsonline.com  |  IP: Logged Kenny Thies Film Handler Posts: 42 From: Effingham, IL, USA Registered: Jan 2003 posted 02-24-2003 08:22 PM                     Karen, Mine is right at 4v. The first 8 reels play without a flicker. As soon as the 9th reel hits, flicker away of the time code light and goes through reel 10.  |  IP: Logged John Carpenter Film Handler Posts: 96 From: Fort Walton Beach, FL, USA Registered: Nov 2002 posted 02-24-2003 11:40 PM                     WB thought that our problems with reel 2 & 8 was caused by bad DTS discs, which we all knew to not be the case. But we tried that today after they shipped us new ones and same thing--- perfect timecode reading in reel 1 and at the reel change - in & out time code on reel 2. Hopefully we will be getting replacement reels soon?  |  IP: Logged

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