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Author Topic: Reference frame for MBFGW Jason Black Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1723 From: Myrtle Beach, SC, USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 12-21-2002 02:01 PM                        Due to an unfortunate brain wrap I will have to order a new reel for this print. I inspected the head/tails for reference to be sure of the reel but my opeartors (or the previous theatre) cut the reference frames for reel one out totally. Can any of you describe or show me the exact ref. frame for the tail of reel one? R2 head shows the three lady's legs as they walk down the street. Thanks!  |  IP: Logged James R. Hammonds, Jr Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 931 From: Houston, TX, USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 12-21-2002 02:23 PM                     Id have to look at my print when I get to work, but if you call Technicolor, that can fax you over a sheet with all the reference frame on them. They will be dark and hard to see, but if you try really hard and squint your eyes a lot, you might be able to somewhat tell what frame is supposed to look like.  |  IP: Logged Jason Black Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1723 From: Myrtle Beach, SC, USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 12-21-2002 02:37 PM                        James, I'll do that. I never realized you could call them for reference frames... edit TES will also email you the reference frames for the films. Cool idea if you ask me.. It helped me out anyway... My R1 is missing footage at the tail. Replacement ordered.  |  IP: Logged Jeffry L. Johnson Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 809 From: Cleveland, Ohio, USA Registered: Apr 2000 posted 12-21-2002 03:20 PM                        I think it is two women looking towards the soundtrack.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 12-21-2002 04:29 PM                        Jeffry is correct, and I know just because I have seen that reel change so many times. ID frames are completely unnecessary, unless your print has many other splices in it from bad handling.  |  IP: Logged John Hawkinson Film God Posts: 2273 From: Cambridge, MA, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 12-21-2002 04:32 PM                     TES can also get you footage counts (often in the same fax as the "checkframes" (as they call them)); useful if you have good reason to suspect a real is short by a significant amount. --jhawk  |  IP: Logged James R. Hammonds, Jr Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 931 From: Houston, TX, USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 12-21-2002 11:34 PM                     "I think it is two women looking towards the soundtrack" That must be one mighty impressive soundtrack!!  |  IP: Logged Rick Long Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 759 From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Registered: Nov 1999 posted 12-21-2002 11:42 PM                     Well ya, it IS an impressive sound-track. They are looking nostalgic at it as they know it is about to be a thing of the past. (Cyan is coming.)  |  IP: Logged Jason Black Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1723 From: Myrtle Beach, SC, USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 12-22-2002 12:30 AM                        This is the imagery that TES sent me... (Hope it isn't to big) Wait.. the upload feature is no longer available? I just noticed that.... Anyone?  |  IP: Logged Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 12-22-2002 01:14 AM                        Upload is still available... if you're not running at DLP resolution you might have to scroll down the menu buttons in the top left frame. IIRC some of the studios had a beef with posting scanned frames on the site. Don't know about a copy of a fax though.  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 12-22-2002 09:23 AM                     Actually they are wondering why there is no SRD track to back up the analog in case it fails.......Just grab the windex and everything will be ok! Mark @ CLACO  |  IP: Logged Randy Stankey Film God Posts: 6539 From: Erie, Pennsylvania Registered: Jun 99 posted 12-22-2002 06:55 PM                     Actually, if you call up TES and ask them they will send you an e-mail which has a link to a file on their site. This file is a PDF version of the FAX they send you. It's been a while since I have had to do this but, if memory serves, the PDF versions are in color.  |  IP: Logged Ken Lackner Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1907 From: Atlanta, GA, USA Registered: Sep 2001 posted 12-23-2002 11:21 AM                     I've always agreed with the idea of leaving just ONE reference frame on the head and tail. Hmmm.... maybe this TES sheet could eliminate that less-than-perfect practice. What about non-TES prints? Anything like that available for them?  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 12-23-2002 11:53 AM                        Since someone at TES is obviously going to the trouble to make up these reference-frame sheets, why don't they ship them out with every print? For a 3000-print release, the cost would be about $30 (at most), which would be more than worthwhile if it prevents even five refunds from being given due to a print being shown in the wrong order. Putting them on a web site would help, too, but most of us don't have network connectivity in the booth.  |  IP: Logged John Hawkinson Film God Posts: 2273 From: Cambridge, MA, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 12-23-2002 03:46 PM                     It would mean they'd have to visit every print whenever it comes back. I mean, stuffing such a sheet in each can with the initial trailer pack & letter is presumably pointless, since a) those prints are presumably uncut anyway so who needs to know what the checkframes are b) it's pretty rare for anything other than the print to stay in the can past the first theatre that handles it. So it translates into a labor cost. Presumably doing it on-demand is cheaper. Personally, I wonder what the demand is really like. I suspect it's pretty small. --jhawk  |  IP: Logged

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