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Author Topic: Analyze That- timecode problem? John T. Hendrickson, Jr Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 889 From: Freehold, NJ, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 12-06-2002 07:09 PM                     Both of my prints are experiencing problems holding the timecode. They are both in auditoriums where we have had no previous problems with our DTS units. I was wondering if anyone else has experienced problems? Print #'s are 4259 and 4260.  |  IP: Logged Darryl Spicer Film God Posts: 3250 From: Lexington, KY, USA Registered: Dec 2000 posted 12-06-2002 08:06 PM                    Yes I had some problems on one of them. I had to make a latteral adjustment on the DTS reader head to correct the problem.  |  IP: Logged Kenneth Wuepper Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1026 From: Saginaw, MI, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 12-06-2002 09:52 PM                     Do most of you folks have a multimeter and an oscilloscope in your booth? I can't imagine making many adjustments "blind" Perhaps I am too design oriented. KEN  |  IP: Logged Jason Black Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1723 From: Myrtle Beach, SC, USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 12-07-2002 12:28 AM                        We're also having timecode problems with our print of Analyze That. I've turned off the DTS until so that the processor reverts to Dolby Digital and no sound loss is incurred.  |  IP: Logged Rick Long Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 759 From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Registered: Nov 1999 posted 12-07-2002 12:34 AM                     C'mon Ken, you must know that any projectionist will do whatever he/she has to do to try and keep the perfomance top-notch, regardless of whether they have the technical test equipment or not. Darryl's adjustment of the reader was, no doubt done out of fustration, and with his experience with some D.T.S prints (although I find that this re-adjustment is not as necessary as it was in the early days). There are times when ya just gotta try whatever you think might work to keep the show going, and check it with the proper equipment, later. The show must go on.  |  IP: Logged Kenneth Wuepper Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1026 From: Saginaw, MI, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 12-07-2002 06:39 AM                     OK Rick, I have saved a few shows by the seat of my pants over the last 52 years in the business. There is now doubt that clever operators can often save what could be major disasters through their manipulation of a situation. The show always comes first. Having said that... My question remains "How many booths are equipped with minimal equipment like a multimeter and an oscilloscope?"  |  IP: Logged Shaun Flichel Film Handler Posts: 42 From: Regina, Sask., Canada Registered: Sep 2002 posted 12-07-2002 08:56 AM                     I have yet to see a theatres with its own occilliscope, they are a pricy unit, but everybooth should have a multi-meter. The only time I have adjusted the lateral adjustment on the DTS reader is when the led is not on steady during the show, just tweak it one way or the other til the led is steady, and it should be ok.  |  IP: Logged Darryl Spicer Film God Posts: 3250 From: Lexington, KY, USA Registered: Dec 2000 posted 12-07-2002 12:05 PM                    You do not need anything as far as test equipment to make the lateral adjustment. You just want to maintain a steady green light thru out every reel. Where you do not want to make blind adjustments is in the analog a-chain area. So really the lateral adjustment on the dts unit is not blind at all so long as you can maintain a steady green led. There was no frustration in my decision to do this. It was automatic from past experiences.  |  IP: Logged Thomas Procyk Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1842 From: Royal Palm Beach, FL, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 12-07-2002 12:26 PM                     Haven't noticed any problems with the DTS on our print. I try to check all the prints at least at every reel, but being a "projectionist/doorman" they also give me stuff to do downstairs. I'll especially keep an eye on it now. =TMP=  |  IP: Logged Chris Tyson Film Handler Posts: 15 From: Branson, MO, USA Registered: Sep 2001 posted 12-07-2002 02:51 PM                        We've got the same problem on our print (0442). We moved it to a dolby digital house and haven't had any problems. We put The Emperors Club in the same house that we had Analyze That in and it works just fine. I didn't want to mess with the reader for that film when everything else runs fine on it.  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 12-07-2002 06:59 PM                        Has anyone measured the lateral position of the DTS timecode from the edge of the print on the problem prints? Are all the reels affected? What does the soundtrack application look like? --- does it cover the DTS track?  |  IP: Logged Steve Kraus Film God Posts: 4094 From: Chicago, IL, USA Registered: May 2000 posted 12-07-2002 07:39 PM                    Seems like that would be right near the edge of application. What affect will inconsistency have?  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 12-08-2002 06:50 AM                        If the edge of the application weaved in and out of the DTS track, I assume it could add some inconsistency in the ability to read the timecode.  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 12-08-2002 10:42 AM                        The print that I ran yesterday (print number in the low 000030s, but not an EK print...just a regular release print) played fine in DTS. Weird.  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 12-09-2002 09:29 AM                        Again, the centerline of the DTS time code track should be 0.297 inches (7.54mm) from the reference edge of the print, per SMPTE Recommended Practice RP115.  |  IP: Logged

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