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Richard Miller
Film Handler

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From: Lafayette, IN, USA
Registered: Aug 2002


 - posted 10-17-2002 05:40 PM      Profile for Richard Miller   Email Richard Miller   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I recieved a print of "The Ring" today and written on the can under the title of the movie was "rear captioned." I was just wondering what this meant (TES didn't know and they printed it!) or if there was anything I should watch for when building it or while running it. Any help would be great.

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Adam Martin
I'm not even gonna point out the irony.

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From: Dallas, TX
Registered: Nov 2000


 - posted 10-17-2002 06:56 PM      Profile for Adam Martin   Author's Homepage   Email Adam Martin       Edit/Delete Post 
Maybe it means that there are DTS-CSS discs available for that title.


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Gerard S. Cohen
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Forest Hills, NY, USA
Registered: Sep 2001


 - posted 10-17-2002 07:09 PM      Profile for Gerard S. Cohen   Email Gerard S. Cohen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 

Haven't previous posts described a system for the hearing impaired in which captions appear on a LED display board on the rear wall of the theatre, in reversed lettering, readable from mirrors mounted in cup holders? What's it called again?

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Aaron Sisemore
Flaming Ribs beat Reeses Peanut Butter Cups any day!

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From: Rockwall TX USA
Registered: Sep 1999


 - posted 10-17-2002 07:48 PM      Profile for Aaron Sisemore   Email Aaron Sisemore   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
If I remember correctly, ANY DTS timecoded film regardless of what the leaders say can use the CSS rear-caption system if you use the CSS compatible discs for said title.

-Aaron

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Bob Maar
(Maar stands for Maartini)


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From: New York City & Newport, RI
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 - posted 10-17-2002 08:01 PM      Profile for Bob Maar   Author's Homepage   Email Bob Maar   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Gerard has it right,

Rear Captioned film has the dialogue up on a board supplied by Trans-Lux onto a lucite panel which is placed into the cup holder of the seat for the hearing impaired. This was developed by WGBH in Boston and is distributed by our friends at Boston Light & Sound.

The LED Board is mounted on the auditorium side of the booth wall and is picked up by reflection on the lucite panel.

It works great.


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John Pytlak
Film God

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From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
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 - posted 10-17-2002 08:19 PM      Profile for John Pytlak   Author's Homepage   Email John Pytlak   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Here are links to more information about rear captioning:
http://ncam.wgbh.org/mopix/
http://ncam.wgbh.org/mopix/aboutproject.html

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e-mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com
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Richard Miller
Film Handler

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From: Lafayette, IN, USA
Registered: Aug 2002


 - posted 10-17-2002 08:57 PM      Profile for Richard Miller   Email Richard Miller   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks for the info. Does this mean that the info is on the DTS discs? If so I wondering why they sent it to us and did not inculde the DTS discs at all with it.

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Gordon McLeod
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From: Toronto Ontario Canada
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 - posted 10-17-2002 09:40 PM      Profile for Gordon McLeod   Email Gordon McLeod   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The subtitling system uses a different and seperate disk

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Frank Angel
Film God

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From: Brooklyn NY USA
Registered: Dec 1999


 - posted 10-18-2002 01:22 AM      Profile for Frank Angel   Author's Homepage   Email Frank Angel   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Richard said: >I wondering why they sent it to us and did not inculde the DTS discs at all with it.<

The letters TES say it all.


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Larry Shaw
Expert Film Handler

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From: Boston, MA, USA
Registered: Mar 2000


 - posted 10-21-2002 05:13 PM      Profile for Larry Shaw   Author's Homepage   Email Larry Shaw   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Bob,

We used to be the exclusive distributor of the Rear Window system for several years. We provided marketing, design assistance, installation drawings, tech support, etc. We no longer do this as the circuits essentially said they didn't want any of these services, they just wanted lower prices. We do still manufacture the seat reflectors for the system.

Larry

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Bob Maar
(Maar stands for Maartini)


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From: New York City & Newport, RI
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Larry,

Thanks for the information. I stand corrected.

Regards,

Bob

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Karen Hultgren
Master Film Handler

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From: Agoura Hills, CA, USA
Registered: Mar 2000


 - posted 10-22-2002 06:02 PM      Profile for Karen Hultgren   Author's Homepage   Email Karen Hultgren   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
It means that there are rear window captions available for this film. You need the DTS-CSS system and rear display to see the captions.

Karen at DTS
khultgren@dtsonline.com

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Karen Hultgren
Master Film Handler

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From: Agoura Hills, CA, USA
Registered: Mar 2000


 - posted 10-22-2002 06:05 PM      Profile for Karen Hultgren   Author's Homepage   Email Karen Hultgren   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Richard,

You got the wrong discs! You should get TES to send you the correct discs. The discs you got are for rear window captions only.

Karen at DTS
khultgren@dtsonline.com

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