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Manny Knowles
"What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???"

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From: Bloomington, IN, USA
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 - posted 09-17-2002 08:43 PM      Profile for Manny Knowles   Email Manny Knowles   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Over in the discussion about my new Ultra-Stereo multiplexer (MMP-10) I stated that my first attempt to do an EQ with it was interrupted because I was getting nothing out of the right channel.

The amp was fine (I was getting a response at the booth monitor) and the loudspeaker was fine (did a 9V battery test with a short run of cable at the actual speaker).

The only thing remaining was the wire between the two devices. The really painful part was that this was a brand new run of wire and I wasn't thrilled that we'd have to do it all over again.

A join was discovered when the wire was removed. It had opened up in the conduit.

I thought this was odd because I supplied the electrician's helper with the wire. It was a brand new 500' roll. Three of them, in fact, so that they could run left, centre and right simultaneously.

In any event -- let's say they cut the wire prematurely -- the proper thing to do is re-run it right away, right?

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Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!

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From: Annapolis, MD
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 - posted 09-17-2002 09:17 PM      Profile for Steve Guttag   Email Steve Guttag   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
...if you want something done right....


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Manny Knowles
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 - posted 09-17-2002 09:34 PM      Profile for Manny Knowles   Email Manny Knowles   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Steve, do you really run your own wires...yourself?

I am indeed considering doing this myself now, however basic, menial and BORING it may be. There are four more auditoria to go.

By the way, I fired and replaced that electrician last week on other grounds.


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John Walsh
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 - posted 09-17-2002 09:49 PM      Profile for John Walsh   Email John Walsh   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I'm not sure, but I think I've seen just about everything a person can do to a speaker wire. Bang nails and screws through, use a length to hold up a speaker while the worker goes to lunch, (pulled the wires out of the pipe) wrap *both* conductors together at a splice, strip almost the entire length because of a sharp edge in a trough, etc.

At a job many years ago, we had no sound from an amp; turns out someone apparently overtighted the head of a screw (for the speaker output) and it broke off. So they glued the ring lug and screw head back in place on the terminal.

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Manny Knowles
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 - posted 09-18-2002 02:26 AM      Profile for Manny Knowles   Email Manny Knowles   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Well, that's just precious. I'm feeling not-so-bad already.

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Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!

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 - posted 09-18-2002 06:20 AM      Profile for Steve Guttag   Email Steve Guttag   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Manny,

Do I really pull my own wire...sometimes. Do I like it? Nope, not the long runs of speaker wire but sometimes it happens. It all depends on the job.

Steve

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Dustin Mitchell
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From: Mondovi, WI, USA
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 - posted 09-18-2002 12:47 PM      Profile for Dustin Mitchell   Email Dustin Mitchell   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Don't you need to be a licensed electrician to run wires? Not imploying you're doing wrong Steve, for all I know you are one or the law is different in your state. Just curious.

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Jeff Taylor
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From: Chatham, NJ/East Hampton, NY
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 - posted 09-18-2002 01:55 PM      Profile for Jeff Taylor   Email Jeff Taylor   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
For new, out of the ground work we generally give the low voltage work to the project electician for convenience sake, but on retrofit work it's certainly not required for low voltage audio, communications, control, and life safety device wiring.

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