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Adam Fraser
Master Film Handler

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From: Houghton Lake, MI, USA
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Is the mix for XXX especially 'hot'? We had to turn down the level a bit b/c it was just too loud. Also, the DA-20 level indicator was maxed out the most I have seen it during action scenes that I can remember. Could it be the fault of a particular print, our print # was around 300. I dont want any critique of the movie, I know it isnt any good, but it was our best option for a one week filler.

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John Pytlak
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Generally, all the prints in a release are made from the same sound negative, and so would have the same levels. On an analog track, variation in the printing or processing could affect the cross-modulation distortion or noise level. On a digital track, a lab problem could affect the error rate, but not the level.

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Mike Olpin
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I noticed that it was much louder too. No one has complained, and i like loud stuff, so i haven't done anything about it.

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Wes Hughes
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 - posted 09-07-2002 01:29 PM      Profile for Wes Hughes   Email Wes Hughes   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Our print runs very loud also (dolby digital). We had to turn the fader back in that auditorium quite a bit.

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Adam Fraser
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Thanks guys, just wanted to make sure the problem wasn't on our side of the fence, were are also running SRD. We also had to notch the fader back about 1 point.

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Christopher Duvall
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The cans we received had a letter in it signed from Rob Cohen (the director) stating the he wants the movie to be run at the Dolby fader setting at 7 and that the film has a very "dynamic" soundtrack. I think it is his way of saying that it is hot. Those that are interested in that movie probably wouldn't mind it being the loud anyway...


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Gordon McLeod
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Digital soundtrack levels are not as suspeptable to level errors "st the lab" since digital data is not affected by exposure where as the optical track density will effect it with higher cross mods

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John Walsh
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We blew a center-channel HF diaphram while running "XXX".

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Gordon McLeod
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Movies like this are why afterburners come in handy

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Rick Long
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As I mentioned in another post, we got a memo dictating that this feature was to be run at "7" no exceptions. Management followed this dictate regarless of patron pleas to turn it down. (There were several refunds). We too, took out a centre channel high-frequency diaphram.


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Daryl C. W. O'Shea
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'the film has a very "dynamic" soundtrack. I think it is his way of saying that it is hot.'

More like all over the map. That much range in a mix is asking for the fader to be turned down, possibly resulting in incomprehensible dialouge.


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Paul Linfesty
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As I mentioned in another post, we got a memo dictating that this feature was to be run at "7" no exceptions.

I assume this means that, if this memo came from the distributor, they will happily pay for any blown speakers?

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Adam Fraser
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We were worried about blowing our speakers too and also customers were plugging their ears during the first few minutes of the movie. Better to turn down the level a notch then to blow a speaker that would involve lots of $$$ to repair it.

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Alex Grasic
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Well, after doing a run through of the movie, I decided to turn down to at a max of 6.5. I mean, I like loud movies, but XXX was pushing it!

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Ron Lacheur
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we started it at 6.5...wayyy too loud...the snow scene towards the end was clearly heard in the lobby...it's running at 6.0 now.

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