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Ken Lackner
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Atlanta, GA, USA
Registered: Sep 2001


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I'm going to purchase a pair of wire strippers for various uses, but they have about 10 different ones to choose from. The main difference is the range of sizes they handle. So that I (hopefully) don't have to purchase another pair in a year or three, what size wires would I be likely to run into working as a tech? thx.

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Paul G. Thompson
The Weenie Man

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Ken, for a general purpose wire stripper, stay with the Greenlee brand. Stay away from those el-cheapos from Radio Shack.

Greenlee makes green handled ones and red handle ones. One of the green handle strippers have stripping holes (precision, I might add) from AWG 14 to AWG 26. The red ones handle larger wire.

I am sure there are brands out there that are equally good, but I stick with Greenlee products.

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Kenneth Wuepper
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From: Saginaw, MI, USA
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Hello, Ken,

I have been very fond of the Palladin automatic stripper. It is like a pliers with the stripper out the end. I have used mine for booth and organ installations for many years and they are still sharp.

The adjustment is very simple, one of three settings for the type of wire you are using. Small, medium or large. The amount of insulation it removes is easily determined by how far you insert the wire into the end of the stripper. This tool does not nick the wires regardless of the insulation on it.

Happy shopping, KEN

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Ken Lackner
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So 14-26 is a good range for general purposes and for the booth?

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Ian Price
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8-guage would be about the biggest wire you might run across in a projection booth. Some crazy person might use that for a subwoofer run. 14-guage is real common for speakers and such. The smallest wire you might strip would be phone wire or CAT-5 wire. I have found that el-cheapo RCA cords are pretty thin. 20-guage is phone wire so 26-guage is real thin.

So 26 is good for the smallest wire but you want to be able to strip down to 8-guage as well. But heck, I'd get both strippers Paul recommended.

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Steven Pickles
Film Handler

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 - posted 06-19-2002 08:33 PM      Profile for Steven Pickles   Email Steven Pickles   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Ken,

If you run across 30 gauge wire (for any wire-wrapping of pins) Radio Shack produces a cheap and good solution for about $8. It's called a "Wire Wrap Tool."


Paul,

Other than that, I share the same sentiments about Radio Shack products... complete crap.

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Jerry Chase
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<dons flameresistant suit>

I know that wire stippers are the "proper" way of doing things and required for certain work, but most of the time I do better with a good pair of dikes, inserting my first finger between the handles to make an open fixed V wedge, and then eyeballing where to place the wire. I've checked wire that I've stripped that way, and only rarely do I nick the conductor(s). It does sometimes stretch the insulation unless I score it.

I'd spend money on many other tools before a spending on a wire stripper. YMMV.

BTW, there may be complete tool sets that can be picked up cheap. There are a lot of retired hams and commercial radio engineers that are dying off, and typically the family hasn't a clue on how to sell the tools.

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Adam Wilbert
Jedi Master Film Handler

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Ian, why would you strip CAT-5? The crimp connectors are supposed to pierce through the insulation.

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Paul G. Thompson
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CAT 5? That crap is so damn flimsy that most wire strippers will knick it severely.

I just use my thumb nail to strip that stuff.


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Don Sneed
Master Film Handler

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I use the Radio Shack cheapos due to I have a bad habit of leaving tools on the job or it gets ripped off, so the Radio shach cheapees are good for me, I usually get all m tools & test equipment from Contact East, the have a great selection of tools, when I go do a new install I always buy two wire strippers since I know I will lose one, 14-26 ga is the one I buy....

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Manny Knowles
"What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???"

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12-gauge is common for speaker runs too. I use 10 for subwoofers.

Contrary to popular opinion, none of the dikes I know are very tech-savvy. I wouldn't trust them to strip wires for me.


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Paul G. Thompson
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Manny, I think you got "Dikes" mistook for "Dykes".... (or vice versa)

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Phil Hill
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Oh come on Paul, I use my nails up to 14 guage and then my teeth up to 4/0! After that, I call in the Marines!

>>> Phil



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Frank Angel
Film God

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Phil,

I was almost embarrassed to say it, so I am glad you did first. I have been using my front teeth as the perfect wire cutters since I was a kid putting together Heathkit amps. You can feel the exact depth you need to bit in order to get a perfect strip and never knick the wire. Right up to 18awg is no problem. It's fast (you never have to find the wire cutters....you've got em built in!) and
it's clean (the insulation doesn't fly all over the room).

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Greg Mueller
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I used to use my teeth and had this perfect spot between my right upper K-9 and the next tooth over. Then one day the dentist said "what's this funny knick right here"? and when I explained, he "suggested" that I not do that anymore. So now I use strippers. I like to have two sets around as I haven't found one unit that goes from 8 ga to 26. Spend the money and buy a nice pair. It's always good to have decent tools. They make the job so much easier.

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