Film-Tech Cinema Systems
Film-Tech Forum ARCHIVE


  
my profile | my password | search | faq & rules | forum home
  next oldest topic   next newest topic
» Film-Tech Forum ARCHIVE   » Operations   » Film Handlers' Forum   » LEPCO Dimmer fried, any ideas?

   
Author Topic: LEPCO Dimmer fried, any ideas?
Aaron Sisemore
Flaming Ribs beat Reeses Peanut Butter Cups any day!

Posts: 3061
From: Rockwall TX USA
Registered: Sep 1999


 - posted 02-01-2002 12:13 AM      Profile for Aaron Sisemore   Email Aaron Sisemore   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
About a week ago, the electrician was changing out damaged overhead light fixtures in one of the auditoria, and in the process accidentally drove a screw thru one of the hot wires. After clearing the obvious short, the power was reapplied to the lighting circuit, but the dimmer would not operate (lights stay on full and will not dim). The side lights are on another module in the dimmer and still worked.

Assuming it was a blown triac, I first tried swapping the triacs between the always-on side and the still functioning side light module, and nothing happened-pitch dark. Figuring that for some morbidly stupid reason both triacs had to be in-circuit to make things work at all, I hit the road and went around looking for another triac to replace it with, and was unable to obtain an exact unit, but got a crossreference to another type.

Installed the new triac to the once-working side light module and replacing a wire I had unintentionally disconnected from the overhead light module (why there was darkness after swapping triacs) I hit the power, and all the lights came up full... but would not dim!

The dimmer is a LEPCO (Lehigh Electric Products) dual module unit (large blue box with slide pots to control brightness and dim rate). Any ideas to get this thing working again after dropping $78 for three triacs (we have two more of these dimmers in other auditoria so I figured the spares were worth getting, just in case) before I get really upset and rip it out of the wall and replace it with a pair of Xetrol IVs??

-Aaron


 |  IP: Logged

Ken Layton
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1452
From: Olympia, Wash. USA
Registered: Sep 1999


 - posted 02-01-2002 12:41 AM      Profile for Ken Layton   Email Ken Layton   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Not being familiar with your particular brand of dimmer, I can give generic troubleshooting tips.

It's possible that another component was damaged on the control board that operates the affected triac such as a driver transistor/ic, diac, or a burnt resistor. It's possible that a foil trace could have been burnt/blown off the pc board. Check for burnt/damaged connectors.

If I had a schematic of your dimmer I may be able to assist further.


 |  IP: Logged

Paul G. Thompson
The Weenie Man

Posts: 4718
From: Mount Vernon WA USA
Registered: Nov 2000


 - posted 02-01-2002 12:42 AM      Profile for Paul G. Thompson   Email Paul G. Thompson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Xetrol IV's? Nah. They are obsolete. But they were a very good dimmer in their day. Biggest thing with them now is they don't have half-light provisions. If you don't need that provision and you have some Xetrol IV's laying around, then go for it.

 |  IP: Logged

Steven Gorsky
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 146
From: Frederick, MD, USA
Registered: Sep 2000


 - posted 02-01-2002 01:40 AM      Profile for Steven Gorsky   Author's Homepage   Email Steven Gorsky   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I actually happen to have a copy of the "Installation, Operation, and Maintenance Manual for the Movie-Pak Dimming Systems Series C" which should be for that dimmer (if it is from the mid-80s), which I've been meaning to scan and send in, but it does not contain any schematics

It does however list the following as troubleshooting tips for when the lights will not go out:

1. If the system has the Panic function, check that the relay is not in the panic mode. Go to a remote station and pulse the Panic switch to the Normal position to release the panic relay. The panic relay can also be operated at the dimmerboard by pulsing between the 35+ terminal and the P and N terminals. If the relay is operating properly, it makes an audible click when it is pulsed. If no noise is heard, the relay may be stuck in the panic mode due to crossed wires going to the remote station or malfunction of the relay. To check for crossed wires, remove the wires running to the remote statiob and operate the relay manually as described above. If the relay now works, check the wiring to the remote stations.

2. Check the output on the fader control module card. When the Lower signal is pulsed, the output voltage between SIG and C on the control card should drop from 24V DC to 0V. If the output voltage does not drop, the control module is defective and should be returned for repair.

3. If the fader control card module is working, the dimmer is probably defective. Interchange the bad dimmer with one that is working. If the problem follows the bad dimmer, it should be returned to the factory for repair. To test a dimmer when a spare dimmer is not available, remove the plug from the control card module and if the lights do not go out the dimmer is bad.

Lehigh is still around, their website however doesn't have anything on this dimmer. However they can be reached at (610)395-3386, Monday through Friday 8am until 5pm, or by e-mail at service@lehighdim.com

Steven Gorsky


 |  IP: Logged

Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!

Posts: 12814
From: Annapolis, MD
Registered: Dec 1999


 - posted 02-01-2002 06:38 AM      Profile for Steve Guttag   Email Steve Guttag   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Excellent post Steve!

------------------
"Old projectionists never die, they just changeover!"

 |  IP: Logged

John Walsh
Film God

Posts: 2490
From: Connecticut, USA, Earth, Milky Way
Registered: Oct 1999


 - posted 02-01-2002 10:08 AM      Profile for John Walsh   Email John Walsh   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Not directly related; but I occasionally work at a theater with dimmers made by Panja Lighting. The theaters are small, with simple lighting needs. Well, to change the settings, you must use a laptop and plug into the serial port on the dimmer.

It is pretty cool, but this stuff is sure getting complicated.

 |  IP: Logged

Steven Gorsky
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 146
From: Frederick, MD, USA
Registered: Sep 2000


 - posted 02-03-2002 06:11 PM      Profile for Steven Gorsky   Author's Homepage   Email Steven Gorsky   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks, Steve!

BTW, Aaron let us know if you find the problem.

Steven Gorsky

 |  IP: Logged



All times are Central (GMT -6:00)  
   Close Topic    Move Topic    Delete Topic    next oldest topic   next newest topic
 - Printer-friendly view of this topic
Hop To:



Powered by Infopop Corporation
UBB.classicTM 6.3.1.2

The Film-Tech Forums are designed for various members related to the cinema industry to express their opinions, viewpoints and testimonials on various products, services and events based upon speculation, personal knowledge and factual information through use, therefore all views represented here allow no liability upon the publishers of this web site and the owners of said views assume no liability for any ill will resulting from these postings. The posts made here are for educational as well as entertainment purposes and as such anyone viewing this portion of the website must accept these views as statements of the author of that opinion and agrees to release the authors from any and all liability.

© 1999-2020 Film-Tech Cinema Systems, LLC. All rights reserved.