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Paul G. Thompson
The Weenie Man

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From: Mount Vernon WA USA
Registered: Nov 2000


 - posted 10-16-2001 12:48 AM      Profile for Paul G. Thompson   Email Paul G. Thompson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I have two TA-10's that will not sound the built-in alarm when the projector shuts down for no apparent reason, although I would suspect the film presence or film motion detectors would be causing the shut-down. The reason why I think this is because the shutdown problem goes away after I straighten out the lower guidance hardware that was wanged out of position by a club-footed projectionist dancing on the film path.

However, the alarm will sound on tail-out if the detector misses the shut-down cue.

Any suggestions as to why the alarm does not sound when a fault is detected? The alarm sounds ONLY if the film tails-out.

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Ken Layton
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Olympia, Wash. USA
Registered: Sep 1999


 - posted 10-16-2001 01:11 AM      Profile for Ken Layton   Email Ken Layton   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Old firmware/software?

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Paul G. Thompson
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Ken, I don't know. How do I tell? Supposedly, these were new units as of August of this year.

Paul

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Bill Purdy
Expert Film Handler

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From: Seattle, WA
Registered: Oct 1999


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Paul, please call Don Olson at 206-284-9171 with your symptoms. He is very good at this sort of thing and will help you get to the bottom of it without a lot of guesswork.

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Bill Purdy
Component Engineering

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Paul G. Thompson
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Thank you for the feedback, Bill.

Paul

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Paul G. Thompson
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Although I never was able to follow up on Bill Purdy's recommendation, I think I found the cause.

House No. 2 and 3 were shutting down at exactly the same time. The only thing these houses have in common is the 3 phase power.

The problem may be caused by dirty power. It appears when the booth's A/C cycles, it takes the booth lighting into a dip. The power dip lasts about 200 milli-seconds, enough to almost extinguish some of the flourescent lights in the secure areas. I don't think two of the automations like it.

Paul


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Richard Tucker
Film Handler

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From: Austin, TX, USA
Registered: Apr 2001


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Are the units hooked up for interlock? If so, check the address on the dip switches. I had a theater that was wired for interlock, but the switches were never set so when one machine shut down, so did several others.
I would not have found this without Don Olsen, and I strongly suggest you talk to him if you still have problems. He has saved my butt on many occasions!!

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Paul G. Thompson
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Richard, the system is not interlocked. The only connection common to the two automations is primary power, and nothing else. And, yes, I will get in contact with Don Olson.


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Paul G. Thompson
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I spoke with Don Olson, and he also thinks it may be something "cycling" in the building's electrical system. There are a few more things to check. I am confident I will get this problem resolved, and when I do, I will post it for you all.

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