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Topic: Big screw up on Cyrano
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John Pytlak
Film God
Posts: 9987
From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 06-25-2001 09:24 AM
I assume this is a fairly old triacetate print. Sounds like you may have inadvertently "pinched" the film edge by misthreading, such that a pad roller or sprocket shoe badly creased the perfs of the brittle old film, slicing off the edge.If this is a personal collection print, it is unlikely that you can get a replacement reel. So the only possible alternative would be to use "Perf-Fix" or "Cine-Bug" tape on each side of the film (i.e. sticking to itself to form a new perforated edge). When showing the film, I would segregate the damaged section to a separate reel, as it may be more likely to jump a sprocket and cause more damage to the good film that follows. BTW, some projectors are fairly "forgiving" of film that has a damaged edge, especially if the soundtrack side (reference edge)of the print is okay. Depending on the model of projector and degree of damage, you may find that the film will run okay even if one set of perfs is damaged or even missing. But definitely run the damaged section as a separate reel, so as not to risk the undamaged rest of the feature. ------------------
John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Eastman Kodak Company
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
Tel: 716-477-5325 Cell: 716-781-4036 Fax: 716-722-7243
E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com
Web site: http://www.kodak.com/go/motion
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Bruce McGee
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1776
From: Asheville, NC USA... Nowhere in Particular.
Registered: Aug 1999
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posted 06-25-2001 05:30 PM
Joe: I feel for you. I've done the same thing, only it was to a not-so-rare title.I ran R2 of "Night Of The Comet" and had the intermittent sprocket pad pinching the film because I had it threaded cockeyed. R2 has pulled sprockets all through the reel. I loaned another print to a collector (who does not post here) and his Super Simplex gnawed the holes off much like the way you said yours happened. Again, it was not a print that was too valuable, except to me. For now, anyway, it is irreplaceable. Hope you get your print runnable again.
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Mike Heenan
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1896
From: Scottsdale, AZ, USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 06-25-2001 06:05 PM
I have this problem with one reel of a film, although the sprockets are not chewed off, they are just loose or worn. I had a thread going about this a few weeks ago, but bascially what came of it is that the perf-fix tape or cinebug are junk. I have a cinebug with the tape, and it's very hard to use for extended use (long section) and the tape doesnt seem to stick very well either. Basically Brad's method would work best, laying the film flat on a table, take regular splicing tape, lay it on the edge of the film, slice off the excess, and punch the holes with the splicer. And repeat for the other side too. While it may be tedious, I think it will hold up better than perf. fix tape, though I have not had the opportunity to view my work yet (older film).
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William Hooper
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1879
From: Mobile, AL USA
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 06-25-2001 11:53 PM
I've used a CineBug, & struggled with it a bit. The foam rollers are getting flat & deformed, & I wonder what to use to replace them.The Perf-Fix machines I've seen look much better as far as design & operation are concerned. I watched a guy patch up several stretches with one & it was a good-looking breeze compared to me operating the CineBug. I believe perf repair & edge repair tapes are viable, long-lived repairs. I've run a number of older prints with perf repair tape applied to them decades back, & still functioning well. My peeve with edge repair tape is more likely to be when I get an old print with edge damage that has been scrupulously repaired by someone in the past, but the perf repair tape & tape splices are half dissolved & scraped off by machines cleaning the film in the meantime. So you have to do the same job, again, that someone actually did a good job of before ...
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