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Randy Stankey
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 - posted 06-01-2001 10:32 PM      Profile for Randy Stankey   Email Randy Stankey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
HYPOTHETICALLY SPEAKING, what do you think should be done when one walks into a theatre and finds a whole pile of old DTS disks? The movies have long since ended their engagements and there are disks from "Waaaaaay back when" just sitting in a stack in the back of some cabinet or in a box in a corner somewhere.

I'd like to think that there is an address for Technicolor or DTS that they can be shipped back to and hopefully reunited with the proper prints.

Also, is there any truth to the rumor that "they" have the right to charge your theatre some amount of money (like $25) for each disk that's not returned?

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Tal Marks
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 - posted 06-01-2001 11:40 PM      Profile for Tal Marks   Author's Homepage   Email Tal Marks   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hey, before I left AMC's Phipps Plaza in Atlanta way back in '96, i snagged a couple of leftover Jurassic Park DTS discs. They're still in my closet waiting for that day I get my own screening room and somehow get my hands on some DTS hardware and a print of Jurassic Park. Well, if that doesn't work out, anyone up for some frisbee?

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Randy Stankey
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Now, not that I condone that sort of thing but since JP was the first big movie to come out in DTS I could see some collector's value in that one, but "Freddy Got Fingered?????" C'Mon! That's just plain laziness!

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Tal Marks
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 - posted 06-01-2001 11:46 PM      Profile for Tal Marks   Author's Homepage   Email Tal Marks   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hey, the JP dts discs was a small token i think i deserved when leaving the only theatre i made minimum wage in. !

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Adam Martin
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 - posted 06-02-2001 01:36 AM      Profile for Adam Martin   Author's Homepage   Email Adam Martin       Edit/Delete Post 
Tell those twits that if they don't start returning the discs with the prints that you'll take their DTS players to a theater that does!

Or make up a fake invoice from DTS charging the theater for the missing discs. Specifically list some of the titles you found.

Or, just tell them to return the discs or find a new job.

Really, though, you could probably send them back to DTS (as Technicolor will claim that the studio didn't want to pay for that service). I've called DTS a couple of times for discs on special events where the depot didn't have a set.

Hey, Karen! Do you want 'em back?

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Paul G. Thompson
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 - posted 06-02-2001 01:52 AM      Profile for Paul G. Thompson   Email Paul G. Thompson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Personally, I require the DTS disks be returned with the movie. We are all in this industry together, and I think it is a cheap shot of those who decide to keep the disks and take them home. The sub-run houses are entitled to them just as much as the first-run houses are. Please return them.

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Darryl Spicer
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Damn Straight Randy. Tell them that I have a theater here that can use five of there units with no problems sending the disks back. Note on those JP discs. since DTS has done a lot of upgrading to there firmware chips I am curious if they will even work now.

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Mike Judge
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I was told by a higher up that we're charged $1000 bucks (yep, that's what he said straight faced) for each disc not returned. Althought I don't believe him, I wish it were so. My rule is if it comes in the cans, it leaves in the cans. Simple as that, besides, I know what it's like to get a print without discs, it pisses me off. Why is it so hard?

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Brad Miller
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Jurassic Park had a double inventory of discs. The "pair" labeled "6 track A" and 6 track B" will play perfectly with any dts player in the field today. The single disc labeled "stereo" will NOT play.

Randy, I was not aware that "Freddy Got Fingered" was in dts. Did you really find discs, or was that an exaggeration to help make your point?


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John Pytlak
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 - posted 06-02-2001 07:27 AM      Profile for John Pytlak   Author's Homepage   Email John Pytlak   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The orphaned DTS disks should be returned to DTS, or to the film exchange that handles that distributor.

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Randy Stankey
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 - posted 06-02-2001 07:34 AM      Profile for Randy Stankey   Email Randy Stankey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
It was exageration. I have seen disks for just about all the movies played in the last year, though.

Personally, I have a rule. There are three and ONLY three places you are allowed to put a DTS disk:

1) In the player.
2) In the can.
3) In your hand, en-route between 1 and2.

No setting them on top of the racks, not setting them on the shelf. No, "Oh, I'll put them back later." NO! NO! NO!

The only exception is when you have two movies playing in the same theatre. We had a way to handle that, too. Do you remember when Coke/Universal Studios had that "Get Caught Red Handed" promotion? Well, if you got 100% on your trailer checks you won T-shirts and junk. We got a whole box of CD holders. We took a bunch of those and hung them up on the side of the sound racks. IF, and ONLY if you had two or more movies playing in one house you were allowed to put them in one of those cases.

Honestly, this kind of laziness just pisses me off.

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Amanda Gullen
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In the UK if we have absent mindedly forgotten to send discs back we send them to the film's distributor, or if you have a holding depo for all prints they mau take care of them.

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Brad Miller
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Randy, something you might want to implement...

Have your projectionists place the cdroms for a particular feature on a double-up on TOP of the actual print. That makes it virtually impossible for the projectionist to forget to swap out the discs! I only run with one brain on double-up platters, because that forces the projectionist to say to himself "hey, why am I having to move this brain? Oh, because it is a double up. And look here, I can't put the brain into the next platter until I pick up these cdroms that are in the way. etc, etc, etc."

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Randy Stankey
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 - posted 06-03-2001 02:08 AM      Profile for Randy Stankey   Email Randy Stankey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Ooh! I just got my Christie booths all running with two brains again. A lot of them were busted and I spent a lot of time fixing them up again.

The main reason I wanted them to use two brains is because when they pull the one from the middle or bottom decks they would sometimes bash them against the bottom of the deck above. First, this was smashing up the rollers, etc. Second, there have been a couple of occasions where the threading lamp above the brain got smashed and shorted out. This would cause all sorts of electrical problems.

I like the idea of putting the disks on top of the "waiting" print so they don't forget to put it in the player.

There was one time when the print was badly scratched. They weren't putting the disks in the player and it was running in analogue. I had to point out to them that since this print was so trashed, the ONLY thing we have left to offer the people was digital sound. That's the LEAST we could offer customers for their $7.00 and they weren't even doing that!

Boy! Was I pissed off!

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Brad Miller
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Randy, while I definitely agree that all platters should have two functioning brains in them to cut down on the wear and tear of moving them around, ever since I implemented the "put the second brain in the cabinet on double-up platters" policy, there has not been one single thread-up of the wrong movie. It works amazingly well as a reminder! Of course for this to work, you must have 2 functioning brains on all of the OTHER platters first.

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