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Steve Guttag
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posted 03-24-2001 06:38 PM

For one week only...

_Raiders of the Lost Ark_ will be playing at the Uptown theatre in Washington, DC in 70mm. The engagement starts March 30th 2001.

I have heard two conflicting stories as to the print.

1. It is a new 70mm print but mag striped (I don't believe this one)

2. It is a circa 1981 print and is faded but in otherwise good condition (I believe this one).

Spread the word!

Steve

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John Pytlak
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posted 03-24-2001 07:47 PM

Might this be the same somewhat faded print that just played in Seattle last month, and was discussed on another thread?

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Larry Myers
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posted 03-24-2001 09:27 PM

I think the Uptown still has the Cinerama screen. They played Lawrence of Arabia on that screen. I din't like it because it was too distorted.

Larry

John Wilson
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posted 03-24-2001 10:17 PM

...sigh...

The fact that these screenings are being allowed to continue pretty much sums up Paramount's intention to re-release Raiders...which is that their intention is not to.

...go figure.

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Steve Guttag
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posted 03-25-2001 12:15 PM

Larry,

We are all certainly entitled to our opinions on the curved screen issue....but as points of fact...Sir David Lean himself declared it the best he has seen the film (at the Uptown over even the Zigfeld on a flat screen) and second, for 70mm we use curve corrected lenses...shooting a target like 70-PA on the screen shows very minimal distortion (on the order of keystoning in most theatres) on the sides/corners and virtually none on the horizon lines.

So just what distortion are you referring to?

Steve

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Steve Guttag
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posted 03-25-2001 12:17 PM

John,

I believe it will be the Seattle print, just how faded was it?

Steve

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Randy Stankey
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posted 03-25-2001 03:32 PM

This is probably the 3rd or 4th time I've seen people wondering if "this print" is the one that so-and-so played last month, etc.

Coudn't somebody either keep track of the print numbers or somehow mark the tails of the reels somehow so that people will know? How about just putting a white sticker on it? Those of us Film-Tech people who get the print could just put their initals on it and the date, or something.

Just an idea...

Gordon McLeod
Film God

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From: Toronto Ontario Canada
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posted 03-25-2001 05:51 PM

It should be labeled Print 4?
as it was made from several prints here in toronto in 1996

Scott Norwood
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posted 03-25-2001 06:06 PM

So is anyone else from FT going to see this? I intend to be there, although probably not during the weekend...

Mark Gulbrandsen
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posted 03-26-2001 09:43 AM

Steve, How long is the run?
Mark

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Joe Smith
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From: Dale City, Va. USA
Registered: Oct 1999

posted 03-26-2001 12:50 PM

Scott Norwood asked:

quote:
So is anyone else from FT going to see this? I intend to be there, although probably not during the weekend...

I'm going to try to make it although workload is heavy right now...

Joe

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Steve Guttag
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posted 03-26-2001 07:08 PM

Gee Mark...did you even read my post? I think the first line was something to the effect of ONE WEEK ONLY! I didn't mean to hide the info! ;-)

Steve

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Larry Myers
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posted 03-26-2001 10:02 PM

I am sure the 70mm projector at the Uptown is free of any distortion. I am not sure the 70MM print of Lawrence of Arabia was corrected in printing to be shown on a deep curved Cinerama screen without distortion.

Are they going to show "Raiders" on the Cinerama screen?

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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posted 03-26-2001 10:53 PM

Larry, I ahve seen films at the Uptown and on other Cinerama screens. If the film is shown with the proper lenses it will ahve little if any dostortion. "Rectified" prints have not been produced for decades and only Ultra Panavision and Some Todd-AO prints were made this way. Mad World comes to mind as I have run a "rectified" print of it at home. I think Oklahoma and possibly 80 Days also had rectified prints made.
Rectification of the image is and as been done through special projection lenses. Both 70mm Cinerama and D-150 used special lenses.
Mark @ GTS

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Steve Guttag
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posted 03-27-2001 07:38 AM

Larry:

The print of LOA was not "corrected" for the deep curve screen.

The key is the lenses we use ARE. That is, if you used them on a flat screen, the image would look quite distorted.

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