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Al Chaney
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From: Madison, AL
Registered: Mar 2001


 - posted 03-22-2001 12:46 PM      Profile for Al Chaney   Email Al Chaney   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I anve recently acquired a Century C projector. My throw distance is 33ft in a screening room 20 X 40. Can some tell me
what is the maximun widith I can get can and can I use my 16mm type "D" cinemascope Sankor lense on a 35mm projector?

Thank Forum menbers


Al Chaney

Josh Jones
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From: Plano, TX
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 - posted 03-22-2001 10:04 PM      Profile for Josh Jones   Author's Homepage   Email Josh Jones   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
AFAIK, you picture width is a function of the prime lens, not the anamorphic. If you find out how tall the picture is in acadamy or 1.37:1, multiply that number times 2.37, and if your plate is cut properly, will give you your picture width. I could be wrong though. Anyone else?

Josh

John Pytlak
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 - posted 03-22-2001 10:16 PM      Profile for John Pytlak   Author's Homepage   Email John Pytlak   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Al:

Check out the free Theatre Design Pro software available from Schneider Optics:
http://www.schneideroptics.com/theatre/desprodn.html

IscoOptic has a similar program called Cinema Lens Selector:
http://www.iscooptic.de/english.html

Not sure if a scope adapter designed for 16mm will adequately cover the full 35mm frame.

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Brett Rankin
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From: Sierra Madre, CA
Registered: Jun 99


 - posted 03-23-2001 02:10 AM      Profile for Brett Rankin   Email Brett Rankin   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The 16-D probably won't be adequate unless your backup lens is of a very long focal length, like 5" (which, at 33 feet, will not produce a very big picture). You will get heavy vignetting in the corners, especially if you use such a large adapter that it acts as a barrel extender. Just find yourself a decent anamorphic lens designed for 35mm projection (older B&L's are cheap, and can be modified to focus down to 20 feet). The larger lens surface area will produce a sharper picture anyway.

If you still want to use your 16-D, an adapter can be made out of various sizes of threaded PVC pipe to fit the different threading sizes on the two lenses.

Brad Miller
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 - posted 03-23-2001 03:30 AM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
Go to the manuals download page here and download the Lens Calculator program. For quick and dirty calculations, it can't be beat. For more in depth calculations, go to www.schneideroptics.com and download their calculator.

You will need "roughly" a 50mm prime lens for your anamorphic to get an "approximately" 12x28 foot image. (Must allow room for masking.) That will leave you needing "approximately" a 32mm lens for 1.85 flat. I wouldn't put any larger of a screen in that room, as you will be on the verge of having dark corners and focus issues.

Forget trying to use that 16mm lens.

Jeff Stricker
Master Film Handler

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From: Calumet, Mi USA
Registered: Nov 1999


 - posted 03-23-2001 06:58 AM      Profile for Jeff Stricker   Email Jeff Stricker   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I have used a 16D mounted to a 3 1/2" prime lens without vignetting. The trick is to get it as close to the prime lens as possible. That's where I made some homebrew adapter parts! Of course, this is just fun home project



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