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Daryl Lund
Film Handler

Posts: 88
From: Chehalis,WA, USA
Registered: Feb 2000


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How do you tell the age of a Motiograph? Who has the oldest? How manny are in operation.

John Eickhof
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Wendell, ID USA
Registered: Jan 2000


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The first Motiograph was actually called the 'Optigraph' The #1 model was introduced in 1896 by it's make Alvah C. Roebuck (Of Sears & Roebuck) He founded Enterprise Optical Comapny in 1895. There were three upgrades to the Optigraph with the final one in 1906. The first 'Motiograph' was the #1 model in 1911
with several upgrades into the teens. Then Motio intruduced the model F in 1921 this was a squre looking unit with lots of glass in the covers, it had a front shutter, it was followed by the H & HU in the late 20's then the familiar K in the 30's then the model AA and AAA in the late 40's. The early machines were of the open gear design and were quite small. The K was the first fully enclosed machine and the first with a standard serial numbering system, Look at the serial number, the first two digits are the year, the second two the month, and the third set is the machine number. thus a AAA model that has
'5410566' as a serial was made in Oct. 1954 and was number 566. Send me a picture of the machine in question! I'll be glad to ID it for you!

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John Eickhof President, Chief Slave
Northwest Theatre Equipment Co., Inc.
P.O.Box 258
Wendell, ID. 83355-0258
208-536-5489
email: jeickhof@nteequip.com

Jeff Stricker
Master Film Handler

Posts: 481
From: Calumet, Mi USA
Registered: Nov 1999


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Hi John,

Any way to tell manufacturing date on my Brenkert BX-40's? S/N's 5966 & 5967.

Jeff

Paul G. Thompson
The Weenie Man

Posts: 4718
From: Mount Vernon WA USA
Registered: Nov 2000


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Yeah, John. I got a couple of Brenkert heads sitting on the kitchen floor. If I give you the serial numbers, can you tell me when they were built?

John Eickhof
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Wendell, ID USA
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Actually I have a Brenkert number list somewhere in my archives, but the Brenkerts were like Century, in other words, they had no actual order to their numbers as they numbered machine castings as they came off the line, so a BX40 with serial#2566 would be the next one behind a BX-100 serial #2565! Go ahead and email the numbers, as I can probably give you an idea within a year of when they were made. For you old Simplex nuts, I do have a year by year starting serial number list from 1911 - 1954 that includes the standard, super, E-7, SP, XL, SH-1000, SH-1007 & SH-1020.

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John Eickhof President, Chief Slave
Northwest Theatre Equipment Co., Inc.
P.O.Box 258
Wendell, ID. 83355-0258
208-536-5489
email: jeickhof@nteequip.com

Jeff Stricker
Master Film Handler

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From: Calumet, Mi USA
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John, yes I sure would like to see the Brenkert list if you find it. My SH 1000 is serial #2861, the other is missing the nameplate

thanks, Jeff

Barry Floyd
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Lebanon, Tennessee, USA
Registered: Mar 2000


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I've got 4 Brenkert BX-60's that I've always been curious about their birthdays?

What's the best way to tell?

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Barry Floyd
Floyd Entertainment Group
Nashville, Tennessee
(Drive-In Theatre - Start-Up)

John Eickhof
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Wendell, ID USA
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Jeff, your SH-1000 was made during year 1941,
The serial number is usually stamped on the main casting on the gear side at the rear of the soundhead (near the mounting pad) I'll keep looking for the Brenkert list!!!
Barry, just let me know what the serial numbers are...(IF NAMEPLATES ARE MISSING, THE bRENKERTS ARE STAMPED INSIDE THE FILM COMPARTMENT EITHER JUST ABOVE OR BELOW THE LENS OPENING IN FRONT)

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John Eickhof President, Chief Slave
Northwest Theatre Equipment Co., Inc.
P.O.Box 258
Wendell, ID. 83355-0258
208-536-5489
email: jeickhof@nteequip.com

John Pytlak
Film God

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From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
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John said: "Jeff, your SH-1000 was made during year 1941."

That's 60 years old! Film equipment is like the Energizer Bunny --- it just keeps on running, and running, and running. You can play a 35mm print of "Casablanca" made in 1942, or "Hannibal", released last week.

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John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Eastman Kodak Company
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
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E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com
Web site: http://www.kodak.com/go/motion

Jeff Stricker
Master Film Handler

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From: Calumet, Mi USA
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John P. Wrote: "You can play a 35mm print of "Casablanca" made in 1942, or "Hannibal", released last week."

Exactly! And as you are sitting there able to count the strands hair on people's heads on the projected image, you would never know know the age of the machinery. What a great system it is, to stand up to the test of time of over a century!!

Paul G. Thompson
The Weenie Man

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John: Simplex E-7 Ser No. E4253?


John Eickhof
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Wendell, ID USA
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Paul, it was the 323 rd. E-7 made in 1943!

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John Eickhof President, Chief Slave
Northwest Theatre Equipment Co., Inc.
P.O.Box 258
Wendell, ID. 83355-0258
208-536-5489
email: jeickhof@nteequip.com

Paul G. Thompson
The Weenie Man

Posts: 4718
From: Mount Vernon WA USA
Registered: Nov 2000


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Jeeze, John. That thing is almost as old as I am!

John, I have to make a trip to one of our Junkhouses in Post Falls. I wish you were not so far away, or I would come down there just to say hello.


Colin Wiseley
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 123
From: Blacksburg, VA
Registered: Dec 1999


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John: Simplex XL #4761?

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Colin Wiseley
Lyric Theatre
Blacksburg, VA
www.thelyric.com

Scott Norwood
Film God

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From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas)
Registered: Jun 99


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Does anyone have a listing for Century projectors and soundheads?

John -- any chance you could send the liststhat you have to Brad?



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