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Bob Minge
Film Handler

Posts: 43
From: Fergus Falls, MN, USA
Registered: Aug 2000


 - posted 01-26-2001 11:08 PM      Profile for Bob Minge   Author's Homepage   Email Bob Minge   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
When I put together Sugar and Spice, I noticed the reels were brand new, a different style. I then noticed that the hole to put your "power peg" thru on the reel for breakdown was very small. My Strong table and my Speco table both use the same screw in, screw out peg of the same size. I can interchange them with no problem. But the pegs are larger than the hole in these new reels. I may have to buy a bit to drill out the holes in the plastic reels before I break the film down in a few weeks. Anyone else notice this of there S & S film?

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Bob Minge
Manager/Projectionist
Westridge Cinema 5
Fergus Falls, MN http://geocities.com/lakesandriverscinema/westridge_cinema_5.html


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Brad Miller
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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99


 - posted 01-27-2001 02:08 AM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
Those are the new New Line reels that everyone hates exactly for this reason. Most people just break the film down to house reels and then rewind at the bench.

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Randy Stankey
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From: Erie, Pennsylvania
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 - posted 01-27-2001 02:11 AM      Profile for Randy Stankey   Email Randy Stankey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I've seen those reels. You can disassemble them and put the cores on "good" reels to break down, then put them back on the originals if you want. I know, that's a pain in the Glutes.

Also, the holes in almost all plastic reels are "adjustable" if you have the right equipment. (Namely, a 1/4 inch drill bit!)

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Paul G. Thompson
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From: Mount Vernon WA USA
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 - posted 01-27-2001 04:30 PM      Profile for Paul G. Thompson   Email Paul G. Thompson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I just wish they would keep it standardized. I wonder where their heads are when they come up with some of the off-the-wall stuff that the projectionist has to modify to make it work. It is nuts!

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John Pytlak
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From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
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The SMPTE does have a standard for shipping reels (SMPTE 192), but no one seems to follow it anymore, usually trying to reduce the unit cost. The split apart reels were invented to cut down on labor costs at the exchange, so film on cores from the labs doesn't have to be wound onto the old style reels. You get what you pay for.

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John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Eastman Kodak Company
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Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
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John Pytlak
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Chris Erwin
Expert Film Handler

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From: Olive Hill,KY
Registered: Oct 1999


 - posted 01-27-2001 08:06 PM      Profile for Chris Erwin   Email Chris Erwin   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Regaurding these type reels...My favorite rule of thumb is....

You see,you drill.

The next guy (or gal) putting the thing together will love ya for it.

If the exchange sees enough of it,maybe they'll think humm...lots of modified reels there must be a problem. Not likely,but could happen.

--Chris


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Aaron Sisemore
Flaming Ribs beat Reeses Peanut Butter Cups any day!

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From: Rockwall TX USA
Registered: Sep 1999


 - posted 01-27-2001 08:40 PM      Profile for Aaron Sisemore   Email Aaron Sisemore   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
That's odd, the last couple times I have had these reels (the New Line/Transfilm reels) they had holes in the proper places, and I am pretty sure they were molded in. A couple of them had the cores rotated into the wrong place but that was easy to correct...

Aaron


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