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Sean McKinnon
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Peabody Massachusetts
Registered: Sep 2000


 - posted 12-24-2000 01:17 AM      Profile for Sean McKinnon   Author's Homepage   Email Sean McKinnon   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
We just started showing a Val Morgan snipe at my theatre this week. It is printed with an SR-D soundtrack.After this we show the pesi "Dolls" policy trailer which only has a dolby stereo track. Before when this was the first audio sent through the processor it would play in Dolby A and it was fine. Now that it starts up in digital it switches itself to SR and the volume is too low. How can I set this to go from Sr-d to Dolby A?

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Aaron Sisemore
Flaming Ribs beat Reeses Peanut Butter Cups any day!

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From: Rockwall TX USA
Registered: Sep 1999


 - posted 12-24-2000 02:34 AM      Profile for Aaron Sisemore   Email Aaron Sisemore   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Since SRD always defaults to SR analog (the analog track on any SRD print is always SR encoded), to get the 500 to change from digital to Dolby A will have to be done by the automation, usually via a cue.

Aaron


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David Kilderry
Master Film Handler

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From: Melbourne Australia
Registered: Sep 1999


 - posted 12-24-2000 03:04 AM      Profile for David Kilderry   Author's Homepage   Email David Kilderry   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 

Sean,

Welcome to the world of Val morgan ads! A company started here in Melbourne (who once made street directories and swimming pools!)

In Australia all cinemas have had film-ads since the year dot. When SR came in we had to wait until most ads were in SR before we ran the entire ad block through in SR instead of A type. As you know, SR tracks sound OK processed as A type, but A type can be poor running in SR.

With the CP500 the auto digital feature switches between formats (we run up to 8 ads per feature prior to trailers). High level automation systems such as the Pennywise CA100 that we use are also beneficial for multi-format sound tracks.

The varying level between optical and digital ads is a problem. It is a nightmare to automate for volume changes for every ad. We choose a happy (unhappy?) medium and continue to apply pressure to the advertising company - we will reject ads recorded too loud. We have had some success with this and have had several ads and logos re-recorded.

David

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Brad Miller
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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99


 - posted 12-24-2000 05:38 AM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
David,

How many lines of code can the Pennywise CA100 handle? I have used the CA21 (and love it), and almost went this route, but I was a couple of lines short of it doing what I wanted it to do. All it would have required was a cue on the end of each trailer. The CA Link has the capability to take one program and shoot it within a matter of a few seconds througout the building to all CA21s, so assuming all of the sound processors were set up the same, your standardized ad "rolling stock" would be taken care of with one programming.

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Tim Killen
Film Handler

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From: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Registered: Mar 2000


 - posted 12-26-2000 09:13 PM      Profile for Tim Killen   Email Tim Killen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Brad,

The CA100 can handle twenty programs with twenty steps per program and 6 inputs per step or cue, so as you state you could in theory cue each ad or trailer, but when you run a twenty screen complex it makes it a tad difficult. Mainly due to the fact that we change ads & trailers each week. Meaning that you would have to change the program for that feature each week, not impossible but in the end time consuming. At the end of the day we try to find a happy medium which we accept and which is also of quality in presentation to our patrons.
The CA100 also links up to CA Link, giving it greater flexibility. Talk to Pennywise about a brouchure for the CA100, I would call it the big brother of the CA21 as the CA100 is unlimited in what it can do. It is basically up to end user in what he wants to acheive in his presentation,but if he wants to do it, the CA100 can handle it.

Regards

Tim

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David Kilderry
Master Film Handler

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From: Melbourne Australia
Registered: Sep 1999


 - posted 12-29-2000 03:03 AM      Profile for David Kilderry   Author's Homepage   Email David Kilderry   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Brad,

Tim has jumped in and answered for me. We do operate CA 21, Ezymation (predessor of the CA100 and very similar) and CA100. 90% of our screens are run with CA100 or Ezymation.

The CA100 is the big daddy and can perform anything and everything you could ever want. Once the software is bedded down it would be the most reliable automation I have ever used.

The system was initially developed by a former Village projectionist in his spare time in the booth! It was then picked up and manufactured through GUVT - Ezymation and then produced and redesigned by Pennywise. Various Pennywise products are subsequently sold by Christie and Kinoton. The very first units are now over 10 years old and still operating (these were produced by Email Electronics).

A typical programe:

Sessions programmed for week in advance so timer activates first step at predetermined time....

Step 1 autostart,

Step 2 lights down, scope, digital, close theatre doors.

Step 3 lights preset 1.

Step 4 autostop, lights up


Autostart contains xenon strike, motor on, stage lights down, curtains open, stereo SR, fade non-sync,w/s, picture on; all timed for presentation.

Autostop is the reverse.


David

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