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Frank Rapisardi
Film Handler

Posts: 96
From: Methuen, MA, USA
Registered: Apr 2000

posted 12-21-2000 05:39 PM

Today I ran my oldish 16mm Bell&Howell Autoload Filmosound projector. The film was in great shape;but the picture was a bit jumpy.I ran a second feature and you guessed it ;same thing.The first feature was two reels;both jumpy.The second feature was three reels ;all three jumpy. I checked carefully and could find nothing wrong with the film or the projector.The sound was fine;so I was not losing loops.Anyone have any ideas. Bell&Howell parts are getting hard to find. If anyone has any ideas;thank you.(P.S. The picture looked like 35mm when projected with a problamatic shutter!)

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John Eickhof
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 588
From: Wendell, ID USA
Registered: Jan 2000

posted 12-21-2000 10:03 PM

Check the film trap pressure pads and see if they are stuck in a position that is not allowing enough tension on the film. If the projector has been stored a long while with the trap door closed, these pads will stick against the front piece and will not press against the film properly. Also look for an obstruction in the trap door that may be keeping it slightly open. (It could probably use a good cleaning!) Happy holidays!

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Scott Norwood
Film God

Posts: 8146
From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas)
Registered: Jun 99

posted 12-21-2000 10:10 PM

Are the loop guides touching the film? Misaligned loop guides are a common problem with autoload (auto-shred) B&H machines.

Someone here (Ken Layton, I think) has the address and phone number for the current dealer for B&H parts. They're still available new (or new old stock) if you don't have a junker projector to disassemble.

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Paul G. Thompson
The Weenie Man

Posts: 4718
From: Mount Vernon WA USA
Registered: Nov 2000

posted 12-21-2000 10:39 PM

Sounds like the shuttle might be worn out. Ken Layton, what do you think?

Scott - I have an old Filmosound 500 without the case and amplifier. Are those shuttle kits used in that machine the same as the auto-shred uses? I might consider letting that thing go, as I have no need for it any more. It is in good condition.

P.S. - I just talked to Ken, he thinks they are.

Frank, if it does turn out to be a worn shuttle, I can tell you this much - they are very hard to work on. I put a new kit in an old Bell & Howell, and I don't think I would do it again. When I just spoke to Ken on the telephone, he mentioned it takes about 3 hours. It took me the better part of four hours, since it was the first one. The kits were not too expensive when I did one in 1972, but I can imagine they are quite pricey today. I wish you luck. Have a good holiday season

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Ken Layton
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1452
From: Olympia, Wash. USA
Registered: Sep 1999

posted 12-21-2000 11:09 PM

The company that bought out all the Bell & Howell parts is:
KMR ELECTRONICS
2413 South Broadway
Santa Ana, Calif. 92707
(714) 979-0400
fax: 714-668-9866

They also carry parts for many other manufacturers of 16mm projectors, too.

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Tom Sauter
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 163
From: Buffalo, NY, USA
Registered: Sep 2000

posted 12-22-2000 08:44 AM

Could be loose claw arms, pressure plate misaligned, or incorrect claw pitch/protrusion.

I've found many jumpy image problems on B&H and Eiki's to lie in the claw protrusion and stroke. As Paul mentioned, these operations take lots of time and patience.

Who's interested in 16mm service manuals on film-tech? I have the whole line of Eiki and several B&H. I'll start scanning if there's enough interest.

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