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William Hooper
Phenomenal Film Handler

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Winner gets to take a long lunch hour to go pick up a 70mm film stretcher from across town!

The F3 Brenograph at the far left was ID'd earlier, & here's the rest of the booth of the Carolina Theatre in Charlotte, NC just before opening in 1927 -


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Robert Throop
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The lamps are Peerless Hi-Lo. They were high intensity reflector lamps burning 9mm positives at about 70 amps. The pedestals are Simplex 5 points so I'm assuming the projectors were Simplex as well.

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John Eickhof
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Definitely peerless low intensity, looks like simplex 16" magazines w/ decal so vintage early 1920s and most likely simplex regular front shutter mechanisms. Its nice to see a
three machine booth again!

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Paul Mayer
Oh get out of it Melvin, before it pulls you under!

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Resurrecting this thread with this pic:

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The machine dates from around 1945, what is it?

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Mike Rendall
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Just from the positioning of the rollers and general shape of the head it looks like it is a Cinemeccanica (although they are normally blue hammerite finish). Could it be a Victoria 9?

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Jeff Skallan
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It looks to be a Cinemeccanica Vic 5. But why is it green? Weird.

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Adam Martin
I'm not even gonna point out the irony.

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That's gotta be a Vic 5. Where did the date of 1945 come from? The two tags hanging off of the framing knob indicate that the head is either new or rebuilt by Cinemeccanica. One says whether or not the dolby digital reader was aligned at the factory. As far as green goes, I guess you could have one made up pink if you wanted. Probably done to match the lamphouse.

The blue projector below is a brand new Vic 5 (with turret) from last year. The middle green projector is your photo lightened up so I could see it. The grey projector below is a (souped up) Vic 9. Note the differences in the shutter housing, the holdback sprocket and the location of the framing knob.

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Demetris Thoupis
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It's definately a Cinemeccanica V 5!!
After working with these machines for more than ten years one could easily recognise them. Also check the label on the top right of the projector. Only VICTORIA 5 puts the label exactly at the edge on the top right of the head.

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Gordon McLeod
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The green is probably from the flourescent booth lights.
The lamphouse is a peerless knock off

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Paul G. Thompson
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The projector is a Vic.

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Paul Mayer
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Thanks for the ID guys! Don't know why it's green. And maybe the 1945 date came from the lamphouse. The image is a video still from a documentary about the new Studio Ghibli Museum near Tokyo. This Vic 5 is in the museum's theatre, installed in a booth made to look like the front of an old streetcar.

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Demetris Thoupis
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It even looks that it is a new Vic 5. Note that the framing knob is black. Old V5 projector is yellow. Even the rolers suggest that it is a new one since they are the new silver type. I am not suggesting that it is new because of the Digital basement reader because that could be added on. Someone did a hell job with painting it. I would love painting one of these babies in BLACK !!!

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John Walsh
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I've seen so many "slightly" different versions of V5's, V8's, and V9's I've lost count.

V9's are a favorite; I wish they still made them. Had the right combination of simple, "easy to clean openness" with tough parts (used the same intermittent as a V8.) My only complaint (and it's a big one) is the crappy AC solenoid operated "zipper" shutter used on older V5's and V9's models. Don't know how many shutter "disks" I have replaced because they broke the two little rivets holding it to the flat lever. It makes a noise, like; "RRRAANTTT!!" when it opens. So loud and nasty, I think I hear it in my sleep sometimes.

Operated a V5 studio projector recently, another version which I'd never seen before. Had a drive sprocket between the intermittent and the hold-back sprocket with a torque motors for the reels. A little solenoid would operate when run in reverse, to release some gate tension so the film would run through easier.

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Gerard S. Cohen
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Paul,
I really like your photo of the Ghibli Studio auditorium. Delightful place for children! How happy they all look!
Gerard

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