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Richard Quesnelle
Film Handler

Posts: 67
From: Penetang, Ontario, Canada
Registered: Mar 2000


 - posted 08-09-2000 10:34 PM      Profile for Richard Quesnelle   Email Richard Quesnelle   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I could have punched someone out tonight. Nobody at the theatre I work at tells anybody anything. I ran the movie What Lies Beneath without knowing that it was scope. The censor bands were left in the shipping can and no tape was placed to let me know what format. So I ended playing a scope film through a flat lens for the first show. Another problem was that the guy who made up the film put flat trailers at the beginning and screwed me up. I was planning to stop the movie during the trailers if I would have known how many, but again too bad.

Also, we have this leader that keeps putting us out of frame. Nobody has bothered to determine why it is doing this so everyone just lets it go and doesn't let anyone know there is a problem.

Bottom line is that a good communication is needed to make your booth work 1st class.

P.S. I thank everyone for helping me because there would be no way else to learn this stuff as you can understand the lack of pride and caring with the staff.

Thanks

Richard

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Dustin Mitchell
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1865
From: Mondovi, WI, USA
Registered: Mar 2000


 - posted 08-10-2000 12:51 AM      Profile for Dustin Mitchell   Email Dustin Mitchell   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
First question I'll ask you is this-how high up on the food chain do you rank in the booth? Are you 'Booth Manager' or 'Junior Spaceboy'? What authority you have will determine what course you take to correct communication problems.

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Kevin Crawford
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 207
From: Sacramento, CA, USA
Registered: May 2000


 - posted 08-10-2000 01:55 AM      Profile for Kevin Crawford   Email Kevin Crawford   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hell, I communicate all the time. The problem is communication is a two way street. I can't get the management or their monkeys to pick up a rag and wipe out the machine once a week. I am left holding all of the cleaning. That plus film work and maintenance, in just 25 hours a week.

Talk all you want, but they have to listen.

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Oscar Neundorfer
Master Film Handler

Posts: 275
From: Senoia, GA
Registered: May 2000


 - posted 08-10-2000 06:09 AM      Profile for Oscar Neundorfer   Author's Homepage   Email Oscar Neundorfer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Richard wrote:
>So I ended playing a scope film through a flat lens for the first show.<

I am not a projectionist, so maybe I don't understand all this, but did you ever look at the screen and see the error? Just curious. Maybe you looked as the trailers were playing, and everything looked OK. But the feature is what the customers come to see. So it seems important to me as a paying customer that the feature should be checked by the projectionist to make sure that frame, focus, format, sound, etc. is OK. Just a suggestion.

Best regards,

------------------
Oscar Neundorfer
Chief Engineer
SMART Devices, Inc.

oscar@smartdev.com

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Michael McGillion
Film Handler

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From: Blue Mountains, NSW, Australia
Registered: Jun 2000


 - posted 08-10-2000 08:27 AM      Profile for Michael McGillion   Author's Homepage   Email Michael McGillion   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I agree completely with Oscar - if there was a hair trapped in the gate of the projector and I couldn't get it out w/o stopping the projector, I probably would - the audience appreciates good presentation, and as long as you let them know why you're stopping the movie, they are usually (depending on the crowd) happy for that one or two second interruption if it means the annoying hair won't be there for the rest of the feature. Needless to say, it's always easier to catch something like that during the ads or trailers and stop the projector while the house lights are still on.

As for communication, my booth has a diary where things like what needs repairing, films broken down or made up etc. are all recorded, as well as running jokes about "Centre Stage" - it still hasn't been released in Australia yet but we're hangin' out for it!

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Scott McFly
Film Handler

Posts: 19
From: Birch Run, MI, USA
Registered: Aug 2000


 - posted 08-10-2000 08:55 AM      Profile for Scott McFly   Email Scott McFly   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
this isnt really about communication, but i was wondering what is the tempature in the booth at your places? our booth is extrememly warm and has poor ventilation. our booth and lobby share the same part of the vent system and it sucks. i run around up there in my wife beater and work pants and still sweat like crazy.

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Dave Cutler
Master Film Handler

Posts: 277
From: Centennial, CO
Registered: Jun 2000


 - posted 08-10-2000 09:38 AM      Profile for Dave Cutler   Email Dave Cutler   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Even an average moviegoer should have noticed that it was in the wrong lens. They might not have known what was wrong, but atleast that something WAS wrong. And whatever happened to ushers checking auditoriums?

Richard, did the whole movie run in the wrong lens or just the beginning? Are you checking your shows every 10 - 20 minutes? If you aren't, you should be. It's just a good idea, so that you can guarantee that your guests are getting the best show possible. It's all about presentation.

A booth log (diary) is always a good idea. You can keep track of any problems as well as share problems, questions or any issue that might arrise on your shift that you hadn't encountered. When you have a bad day, it's a good way to relieve stress before going home, if you have a good day you can share it with everyone. If you figured something new out you can let everyone else know, and get thier opinions on the matter.

I also hold a monthly booth meeting, so that the entire staff can sit down togeather. That way we can discuss any changes that we want to implement and they can start immediately. Also lets me point out areas of weakness as well as the wonderful job that my staff does.


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Brad Miller
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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99


 - posted 08-10-2000 09:05 PM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
Dave,

Personally I feel a tech log is a fantastic idea, but a booth log is a horrible idea. Tech logs are great for keeping track of the last time something was replaced or serviced. Booth logs tend to be chopped full of nonsense bitching over the most silliest things just to let off steam. Operators get defenseful and it just creates problems all around. Then again, that's just my take and experience with them. I'm sure there are plenty of others who feel the opposite.

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Gordon McLeod
Film God

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From: Toronto Ontario Canada
Registered: Jun 99


 - posted 08-10-2000 09:06 PM      Profile for Gordon McLeod   Email Gordon McLeod   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Tommorow I will post the log booth we use at the IMAX it is a little overkill and parts don't apply but it has been copied to many other theatre since
gord

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Aaron Sisemore
Flaming Ribs beat Reeses Peanut Butter Cups any day!

Posts: 3061
From: Rockwall TX USA
Registered: Sep 1999


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The booth log that was in use when I started working in Sebastopol was a joke, Occasionally there was things of genuine concern, but most of the pages contained drawings, doodles, off-color poetry, etc... The logging thing didn't last very long.

Aaron

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Russ Kress
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 202
From: Charleston, WV, USA
Registered: May 2000


 - posted 08-11-2000 02:47 AM      Profile for Russ Kress   Author's Homepage   Email Russ Kress   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Actually, we do something like this. There is a clip board by each projector where break-downs are logged.

To-date, there has been no poetry. The entries read like, "Tension failsafe snagged a splice", or "platter 2 running slow on pay out".

While we do not study these lists to uncover the secrets of the universe, they are handy when doing maintenance.

We haven't used them to log major repairs, but that might be a good idea.


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John Wilson
Film God

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From: Sydney, Australia.
Registered: Dec 1999


 - posted 08-11-2000 04:31 AM      Profile for John Wilson   Email John Wilson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Richard

How many screens are you running at one time? Surely, you could make time to look at the screen result at least one time during the films 129 minutes.

If not before this incident, I hope you will from now on. As you can see by this...it is very important. And checking during trailers doesn't count. Film stocks vary in thickness and the focus setting for the trailers is not necessarily what it's gonna be for the movie.


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Leo Enticknap
Film God

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From: Loma Linda, CA
Registered: Jul 2000


 - posted 08-11-2000 06:04 AM      Profile for Leo Enticknap   Author's Homepage   Email Leo Enticknap   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
We have a 'projection diary' which serves two purposes: (i) to pass messages between staff on a day to day basis, and (ii) to remind us about things to do, e.g. maintenance and special screenings.

The first function is vital because if you ask someone to do something, you automatically generate a written record. If I put on tomorrow's page 'Please Dolby-tone sc. 1 proj. 2', or 'please change blown light bulbs in the bar' and it doesn't get done, then he can't say he wasn't asked.

As a maintenance and events planner the diary is also useful. When I change a projector lamp, I'll write in the diary for a date roughly two months ahead 'Check S2 P1 lamp and rotate if necessary' - so things things like belt changes, or filters on the air handling units won't get forgotten when the time comes.

As for labelling films, we have a very strict policy. If it's going on the platter, we stick opaque acetate spacing on the end (as a failsafe, so if someone leaves sticky tape on the end of the film and it mangles in the feed unit, the end of the film will break rather than stretch) labelled as follows (examples from this week):

'BEAU TRAVAIL' 1:1.66 SR PRINT NO. 3 ACETATE

or

'POKEMON' 1:1.85 SR-D PRINT NO. UK928 POLY

If the film is being made up for changeovers, heads and tails are marked up as follows:

'CASABLANCA' 1:1.33 MONO HEAD 1 OF 6

'CASABLANCA' TAIL 1 OF 6

Info about commercials, trailers etc. goes on a blackboard mounted next to each projector. This happens without fail every Thursday/Friday so there are no nasty surprises...

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John Walsh
Film God

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From: Connecticut, USA, Earth, Milky Way
Registered: Oct 1999


 - posted 08-11-2000 06:25 AM      Profile for John Walsh   Email John Walsh   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I would agree with John W. (and others.) A quick look every 10-15 min or so, and you would have seen it. I don't know how large the place is where you work, but there should be some time allowed to make the rounds.

Although, I've done things just as bad, and not as a beginner, eithe....!

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John Wilson
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Leo

Your 'Casablanca' print is 'silent'?


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