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John Wilson
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 - posted 07-14-2000 02:37 AM      Profile for John Wilson   Email John Wilson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi there

I was wondering if anyone out there is running this combination? I want to get a Media Cleaner on our machines, but due to the odd upper feed assembly on these machines (not an arm attachment, but a continuation of the projector head) it may be tricky as we can't use the standard machine mount.

Any suggestions?
Thanks
John.


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Joe Redifer
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 - posted 07-14-2000 04:35 AM      Profile for Joe Redifer   Author's Homepage   Email Joe Redifer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
How do you mount your typical Dolby Digital and DTS penthouse readers (SDDS doesn't count, since nobody seems to care about that format anymore).

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Brad Miller
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 - posted 07-14-2000 04:41 AM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
I'd say, drill and tap two holes in the front side of the machine just above the lenses and use the platter mounting bracket available from Kelmar. The cleaner would then stick forward from the front of the machine.

Where does the DTS or SDDS reader mount normally?

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Dave Cutler
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 - posted 07-14-2000 09:34 AM      Profile for Dave Cutler   Email Dave Cutler   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
What about platter mounted cleaners. I have never used them (or seen them for that matter), but I have heard about them. I think Kelmar makes one.

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Larry Shaw
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 - posted 07-14-2000 01:47 PM      Profile for Larry Shaw   Author's Homepage   Email Larry Shaw   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Kinoton makes brackets for DTS, SDDS and cleaners including their own anti-static one. www.kinoton.com lists their dealers.

-Larry

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Larry Shaw
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BTW the brackets require no drilling. And for SR-D they have a replacement soundhead plate: http://www.blsi.com/kinoton/rssd.htm

-Larry

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John Wilson
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The dts reader sits just before the upper rollers on with two spacing brackets. (This photo has reel spindles, we don't but the head is still the same.)

The Dolby Digital is a basement reader.

SDDS...ha ha ha ha ha (etc)...

It sounds like the platter mount is the way to go...anyone got a picture of a platter mount?

Final question...How deep is the standard Kelmar base for the cleaner before the film path?


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Brad Miller
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It's about 2 inches deep.

There are pictures of platter mounted cleaners throughout the warehouse. Try UA Galaxy for a pic.

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John Wilson
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 - posted 07-17-2000 07:32 AM      Profile for John Wilson   Email John Wilson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks guys. I'll give the platter mount a go.


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David Johnson
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Mounting a Cat700 and SDDS readers on a Kinoton can often cause some problems, in many older cinemas using smaller port holes the projector was close to the port so it can not always be mounted there, you can't mount it on back because heat from the lamp house can cause some problems with the CCD board, so that only leave the top, and if you have a low ceiling you got problems. David

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